Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages

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Sujet : Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
De : rweikusat (at) *nospam* talktalk.net (Rainer Weikusat)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell comp.unix.programmer comp.lang.misc
Date : 09. Oct 2024, 22:25:05
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Bozo User <anthk@disroot.org> writes:
On 2024-04-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2024 00:01:43 +0000, Javier wrote:
>
The downside is the loss of performance because of disk access for
trivial things like 'nfiles=$(ls | wc -l)'.
>
Well, you could save one process creation by writing
“nfiles=$(echo * | wc -l)” instead. But that would still not be strictly
correct.
>
I suspect disk access times where
one of the reasons for the development of perl in the early 90s.
>
Shells were somewhat less powerful in those days. I would describe the
genesis of Perl as “awk on steroids”. Its big party trick was regular
expressions. And I guess combining that with more sophisticated data-
structuring capabilities.
>
Perl is more awk+sed+sh in a single language. Basically the killer
of the Unix philophy in late 90's/early 00's, and for the good.

Perl is a high-level programming language with a rich syntax¹, with
support for deterministic automatic memory management, functions as
first-class objects and message-based OO. It's also a virtual machine
for executing threaded code and a(n optimizing) compiler for translating
Perl code into the corresponding threaded code.

¹ Has recently gained try/catch for exception handling which is IMNSHO a
great improvement over eval + $@.

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