on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)

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Sujet : on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)
De : jshem (at) *nospam* yaxenu.org (Julieta Shem)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell
Date : 08. Mar 2024, 13:31:01
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Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> writes:

On 2024-03-08, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
We like to give customers a soft landing when turning
down services.  I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions
for good shell providers, places like Panix.
>
That concept mostly went away 30 years ago with free Unix-like operating
systems that run on low-spec consumer hardware.
>
"bare-bones" for the users I'm thinking of.  Some of
them might be able to transition to being a system
administrator, but a lot just want to run tin, pine,
mutt, irssi, tf, and so forth.
>
To access some remote shell account you need a machine
that is internet connected and can run SSH. That machine
can just run a freeware OS with all the above packages.
That's all true, but it seems that people like to share a system
together because people love to belong to a community.  In the
beginning, I believe such communities were mostly made of local people
and the Internet has sort of destroyed that.  I believe people still
long for these local communities again.  BBSs connected local people.
The Internet seems to have done the opposite.
(*) On community building
There's also this conjecture that a person can't deal with more than N
people.  The number I usually hear is 150.  In other words, human
communities should be small (and local).
One principle I think about to achieve that is one begins a community
but others can only come through invitation.  If someone misbehaves, we
know who invited that person---the tree of invitation being public.
Yes, we lose anonimity.  Perhaps anonimity is overrated.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Mar 24 * Shell providers?44vallor
8 Mar 24 +- Re: Shell providers?1Arti F. Idiot
8 Mar 24 +- Re: Shell providers?1D
8 Mar 24 +* Re: Shell providers?35Kaz Kylheku
8 Mar 24 i+* on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)14Julieta Shem
8 Mar 24 ii+* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)7D
8 Mar 24 iii`* Re: on community building6Julieta Shem
8 Mar 24 iii +* Re: on community building3D
9 Mar 24 iii i`* Re: on community building2Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 iii i `- Re: on community building1D
8 Mar 24 iii `* Re: on community building2D
9 Mar 24 iii  `- Re: on community building1Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 ii`* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)6Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 ii +* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)2Arti F. Idiot" nobody@invalid.invalid
9 Mar 24 ii i`- Re: on community building1Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 ii `* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)3Grant Taylor
9 Mar 24 ii  +- Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)1D
9 Mar 24 ii  `- Re: on community building1Richard Kettlewell
8 Mar 24 i`* Re: Shell providers?20vallor
8 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?3Keith Thompson
9 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?2Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 i i `- Re: Shell providers?1Grant Taylor
9 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?4Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?3Eli the Bearded
10 Mar 24 i i `* Re: Shell providers?2Kaz Kylheku
13 Mar 24 i i  `- Re: Shell providers?1Eli the Bearded
10 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?7Julius Bernotas
10 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?6D
12 Mar 24 i i `* Re: Shell providers?5Julius Bernotas
12 Mar 24 i i  `* Re: Shell providers?4Kaz Kylheku
12 Mar 24 i i   `* Re: Shell providers?3Anthony Howe
12 Mar 24 i i    +- Re: Shell providers?1Kaz Kylheku
13 Mar 24 i i    `- Re: Shell providers?1Sovann Pacey
25 Mar 24 i `* Re: Shell providers?5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Mar 24 i  `* [OT] Re: Shell providers?4Janis Papanagnou
25 Mar 24 i   `* Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?3Josef Moellers
25 Mar 24 i    `* Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?2Janis Papanagnou
25 Mar 24 i     `- Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Mar 24 `* Re: Shell providers?6Popping Mad
13 Mar 24  `* Re: Shell providers?5Kaz Kylheku
14 Mar 24   +- Re: Shell providers?1Eli the Bearded
15 Mar 24   +* Re: Shell providers?2Popping Mad
15 Mar 24   i`- Trailer Trash (Was: Shell providers?)1Kenny McCormack
15 Mar 24   `- Re: Shell providers?1vallor

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