Re: Shell providers?

In comp.unix.shell, Kaz Kylheku  <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> wrote:

Yes, luckily, in those 30 years, we also got to the point where anyone
can install the stuff with their eyes closed, or even buy a system
with it preinstalled.
 There is next to nothing to administer on a machine that just runs
client applications like tin or irssi.

With Panix I am not just getting a system with some client programs
installed. I have maintained software for hosting a website. I have mail
service available as webmail or as command line reader. I have a local
newserver with Usenet and private hierarchy groups. I have a .plan file
someone can "finger". I have a system where ssh answers on both port 22
and port 443 (https and ssh differ in who talks first, so the port can
be multiplexed with a slight delay). And where there's a web wrapper to
get to a shell from a browser window. I have maintained backups. I have
multiple versions of utilities where that makes sense (ruby, python,
perl, php, etc) and phased in replacements where "tool.new" is the new
version for a week for testing and only becomes "tool" if no one raises
issues.
I don't get that stuff on my self-managed virtual machines which I also
use.
Elijah
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whose panix account is older than this upstart google thing