Sujet : Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)
De : gtaylor (at) *nospam* tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Groupes : comp.unix.shellDate : 09. Mar 2024, 04:17:27
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On 3/8/24 19:48, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
The era of secure multi-user computing is behind us;
Nonsense.
The era of the shell account's heyday is definitely behind us.
But -- ostensibly -- secure multi-user computing is alive and quite well. RDP / VDI is very much a thing and those are multi-user computing.
My day job is supporting a farm of Solaris servers that clients log into interactively to run applications.
we now know that processors cannot actually be trusted to enforce their documented protection mechanisms like user/supervisor separation, due to side channel attacks.
Not quite true.
The optimizations that have been introduced cause problems.
But disabling those optimizations significantly restores trust.
Also, that trust is largely an x86 specific issue. There are other processor architectures that don't have the same issues.
-- Grant. . . .