Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale)

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Sujet : Re: Python (was Re: I did not inhale)
De : david.brown (at) *nospam* hesbynett.no (David Brown)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell comp.unix.programmer comp.lang.misc
Date : 21. Aug 2024, 10:15:51
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On 21/08/2024 09:27, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 20:56:00 -0000 (UTC)
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) boringly babbled:
In comp.unix.programmer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
No, you do not need your particular favourite out of the thousand and
one Linux programming books in order to program for Linux.  You do not
need /any/ book in order to write useful and successful code for Linux.
Of course you need /some/ reference - and in the days before the
internet was so easily available and so full of information, I went
through a lot of programming books.  Some were good, some less so, and
some have become famous.  But none of them were /necessary/ in any way.
>
Well, I am a quite bad programmer but I am interested enough in the
Linux/UNIX workings so that reading the newest APUE and The Linux
Programming Interface did not feel painful or unnecessary at all. On
the contrary, it was a great pleasure to examine what kind of
programming facilities my favourite OS offers.
>
Having these two books, or just one of them, is a great way to educate
oneself about Linux/UNIX. I see that The Linux Programming Interface
is available online as a free PDF, but I am not sure whether it is
a pirated version.
>
There is no better way to learn Linux/UNIX workings than these two
books. Period.
 The advantage of books written by professionals is that the code and
explanations are usually much clearer and of better equality than the quickly
knocked up might-work-might-not crap you often find on stack overflow and
similar sites. Thats not to say good example code isn't out there but wading
through the rubbish can be a tedious business and IME its often quicker just
to reach for APUE or similar.
 
"Usually" suggests you have statistics to back that up.
The reality is that there are endless numbers of crap books with poor explanations, buggy examples, and outdated information - as well as their being books that are high quality, accurate, and keep enough generality to be relevant for many years.  Equally, there are lots of posts on stack overflow and other such sites with top-quality code just as there are posts with complete nonsense, or (worse) subtly wrong code and answers.
The medium, or the price of getting the information, is at most only in vague correlation with the quality of the information.

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