Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages

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Sujet : Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
De : cross (at) *nospam* spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell comp.unix.programmer comp.lang.misc
Date : 13. Oct 2024, 16:52:14
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Organisation : PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <QnROO.226037$EEm7.111715@fx16.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
In article <vefvo0$k1mm$1@dont-email.me>,  <Muttley@DastartdlyHQ.org> wrote:
>
Really? So java bytecode will run direct on x86 or ARM will it? Please give
some links to this astounding discovery you've made.
>
Um, ok. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle
>
There was also a company a couple of decades ago that
built an entire processor designed to execute bytecode
directly - with a coprocessor to handle I/O.
>
IIRC, it was Azul.    There were a number of others, including
Sun.
>
None of them panned out - JIT's ended up winning that battle.
>
Even ARM no longer includes Jazelle extensions in any of their
mainstream processors.

Sure.  But the fact that any of these were going concerns is an
existence proof that one _can_ take bytecodes targetted toward a
"virtual" machine and execute it on silicon, making the
distinction a lot more fluid than might be naively assumed, in
turn exposing the silliness of this argument that centers around
this weirdly overly-rigid definition of what a "compiler" is.

- Dan C.


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