Re: Default PATH setting - reduce to something more sensible?

On 16.01.2025 00:26, Dan Cross wrote:

In article <vm9err$35gfs$1@dont-email.me>,
Janis Papanagnou  <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]
Since you're referring to me, the OP, please note that most arguments
here have quickly made a relation to a straw man (a performance theme)
or made other deviations from the basic question(s) that concerned me.
>
Essentially there were two questions I had that I can reformulate in a
more compact form as
>
 "Why, in the first place, are all these path components
  part of the default PATH for ordinary users? - Is there
  any [functional] rationale or necessity for that?"

 
Not particularly.
 
The system has, probably for no really principled reason,
evolved over time such that that's simply the set of things that
are in $PATH by default on that particular machine.  Another
machine might be different.

Yes, that is true and important. That's why it feels bad to change
it; the OS/distribution should provide a sensible definition.

 
If I had to hazard a guess, I imagine some of it comes from the
folks who put together the distribution, some upgrades, and the
choices of e.g. the window manager you're using (recalling that
at least one $PATH component appeared to come from that).
 

 "_If_ many of the default PATH components are unnecessary,
  where and how to best reduce these settings to a sensible
  subset? - Without spoiling the system, of course."

 
There are many ways you could do this.  Probably the easiest is
just to explicitly set $PATH in your shell's startup files to
those directories you care about; that's what I usually do.  If
you make a mistake with it, you won't affect the rest of the
system.

Yes, I agree. That's what I had done in past days (but at home I
got sloppy).

 
If you want to set it globally for all users, there's likely
some file in /etc or similar that sets the defaults; on my Linux
machine I see a number of things in /etc/profile and
/etc/profile.d/* that seem relevant and there's /etc/login.defs;

I had inspected all the relevant system files on that and didn't
find anything, but maybe I missed it (I'll search once again).

PAM has its own way to set up $PATH.  I'm not sure I'd bother,
though, if setting it up for your own account is sufficient.

Yeah, you're probably right that this is the simplest thing to do.

Janis