Sujet : on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)
De : jshem (at) *nospam* yaxenu.org (Julieta Shem)
Groupes : comp.unix.shellDate : 08. Mar 2024, 13:31:01
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Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
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Kaz Kylheku <
433-929-6894@kylheku.com> writes:
On 2024-03-08, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
We like to give customers a soft landing when turning
down services. I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions
for good shell providers, places like Panix.
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That concept mostly went away 30 years ago with free Unix-like operating
systems that run on low-spec consumer hardware.
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"bare-bones" for the users I'm thinking of. Some of
them might be able to transition to being a system
administrator, but a lot just want to run tin, pine,
mutt, irssi, tf, and so forth.
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To access some remote shell account you need a machine
that is internet connected and can run SSH. That machine
can just run a freeware OS with all the above packages.
That's all true, but it seems that people like to share a system
together because people love to belong to a community. In the
beginning, I believe such communities were mostly made of local people
and the Internet has sort of destroyed that. I believe people still
long for these local communities again. BBSs connected local people.
The Internet seems to have done the opposite.
(*) On community building
There's also this conjecture that a person can't deal with more than N
people. The number I usually hear is 150. In other words, human
communities should be small (and local).
One principle I think about to achieve that is one begins a community
but others can only come through invitation. If someone misbehaves, we
know who invited that person---the tree of invitation being public.
Yes, we lose anonimity. Perhaps anonimity is overrated.