Re: on community building

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Sujet : Re: on community building
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell
Date : 08. Mar 2024, 22:49:40
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Organisation : i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
Message-ID : <03e74182-e167-01e2-b125-a8bc4de3a376@example.net>
References : 1 2 3 4 5
On Fri, 8 Mar 2024, Julieta Shem wrote:

D <nospam@example.net> writes:
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2024, Julieta Shem wrote:
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Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> writes:
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On 2024-03-08, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
We like to give customers a soft landing when turning
down services.  I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions
for good shell providers, places like Panix.
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That concept mostly went away 30 years ago with free Unix-like operating
systems that run on low-spec consumer hardware.
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"bare-bones" for the users I'm thinking of.  Some of
them might be able to transition to being a system
administrator, but a lot just want to run tin, pine,
mutt, irssi, tf, and so forth.
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To access some remote shell account you need a machine
that is internet connected and can run SSH. That machine
can just run a freeware OS with all the above packages.
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That's all true, but it seems that people like to share a system
together because people love to belong to a community.  In the
beginning, I believe such communities were mostly made of local people
and the Internet has sort of destroyed that.  I believe people still
long for these local communities again.  BBSs connected local people.
The Internet seems to have done the opposite.
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(*) On community building
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There's also this conjecture that a person can't deal with more than N
people.  The number I usually hear is 150.  In other words, human
communities should be small (and local).
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One principle I think about to achieve that is one begins a community
but others can only come through invitation.  If someone misbehaves, we
know who invited that person---the tree of invitation being public.
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Yes, we lose anonimity.  Perhaps anonimity is overrated.
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I run a community for IT-professionals and have been doing so for
close to 10 years. I think what you say is correct and that there
definitely is a need for it.
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If you don't have one, start one! =)
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That's great to know because I really am building one.  Mine is also a
community of IT-professionals, so I started it out by writing the very
software that runs the communication.  It works as a playground: people
enjoy hacking the very software that they and their peers use.
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Can I joing your community?  I promise to behave. :)
Well, if you're ever in Stockholm, sure you can! =) Everyone is welcome. But the community only exists in the real world, and no streaming from the events is allowed. The format is 3 lectures, one sponsored and two community ones, and afterwards there is always burgers and beer. This concept has worked well for almost 10 years, with between 20 and 130 visitors per event.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Mar 24 * Shell providers?44vallor
8 Mar 24 +- Re: Shell providers?1Arti F. Idiot
8 Mar 24 +- Re: Shell providers?1D
8 Mar 24 +* Re: Shell providers?35Kaz Kylheku
8 Mar 24 i+* on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)14Julieta Shem
8 Mar 24 ii+* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)7D
8 Mar 24 iii`* Re: on community building6Julieta Shem
8 Mar 24 iii +* Re: on community building3D
9 Mar 24 iii i`* Re: on community building2Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 iii i `- Re: on community building1D
8 Mar 24 iii `* Re: on community building2D
9 Mar 24 iii  `- Re: on community building1Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 ii`* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)6Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 ii +* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)2Arti F. Idiot" nobody@invalid.invalid
9 Mar 24 ii i`- Re: on community building1Julieta Shem
9 Mar 24 ii `* Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)3Grant Taylor
9 Mar 24 ii  +- Re: on community building (Was: Re: Shell providers?)1D
9 Mar 24 ii  `- Re: on community building1Richard Kettlewell
8 Mar 24 i`* Re: Shell providers?20vallor
8 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?3Keith Thompson
9 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?2Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 i i `- Re: Shell providers?1Grant Taylor
9 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?4Kaz Kylheku
9 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?3Eli the Bearded
10 Mar 24 i i `* Re: Shell providers?2Kaz Kylheku
13 Mar 24 i i  `- Re: Shell providers?1Eli the Bearded
10 Mar 24 i +* Re: Shell providers?7Julius Bernotas
10 Mar 24 i i`* Re: Shell providers?6D
12 Mar 24 i i `* Re: Shell providers?5Julius Bernotas
12 Mar 24 i i  `* Re: Shell providers?4Kaz Kylheku
12 Mar 24 i i   `* Re: Shell providers?3Anthony Howe
12 Mar 24 i i    +- Re: Shell providers?1Kaz Kylheku
13 Mar 24 i i    `- Re: Shell providers?1Sovann Pacey
25 Mar 24 i `* Re: Shell providers?5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Mar 24 i  `* [OT] Re: Shell providers?4Janis Papanagnou
25 Mar 24 i   `* Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?3Josef Moellers
25 Mar 24 i    `* Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?2Janis Papanagnou
25 Mar 24 i     `- Re: [OT] Re: Shell providers?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Mar 24 `* Re: Shell providers?6Popping Mad
13 Mar 24  `* Re: Shell providers?5Kaz Kylheku
14 Mar 24   +- Re: Shell providers?1Eli the Bearded
15 Mar 24   +* Re: Shell providers?2Popping Mad
15 Mar 24   i`- Trailer Trash (Was: Shell providers?)1Kenny McCormack
15 Mar 24   `- Re: Shell providers?1vallor

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