Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))

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Sujet : Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))
De : gazelle (at) *nospam* shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell
Date : 25. Oct 2024, 13:54:56
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In article <vffoij$349j2$1@dont-email.me>,
Janis Papanagnou  <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
This post should also explain why I think that your valuation that
in Ksh the feature "just grew" is not justified. Beyond the '|&' vs.
'coproc' reserved word; consistency with '|' and '&', redirection,
assigned FDs (if desired), consistent 'p' as read/print option and
as FD, all fits and allows for readable straightforward code in Ksh
that also doesn't leave me with questions.

I have no further comment on the issues you seem to have with the bash
implementation of coprocs.  I think I've explained everything (more than
once) already in these threads.

BTW, co-processes were designed into the shell with Ksh88 already;
not much to "just grow" (as you insinuated). ;-)

Don't be afraid.  Sometimes people are attracted to "just grew".  They like
and admire that organic look.  I really do think that ksh's implementation
of coprocs has an "organic" look.  As I said, bash's way seems much more
"designed".

P.S.  To answer one question, "coproc" *is* a shell keyword in bash:

 $ type coproc
 coproc is a shell keyword
 $

I think you will find that |& is also a keyword (in ksh), although I could
not get "type" (or anything similar) to confirm that suspicion.

--
There's nothing more American than demanding to carry an AR-15 to
"protect yourself" but refusing to wear a mask to protect everyone else.

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11 Oct 24 * Different variable assignments60Frank Winkler
11 Oct 24 +* Re: Different variable assignments33John-Paul Stewart
11 Oct 24 i`* Re: Different variable assignments32Frank Winkler
12 Oct 24 i `* Re: Different variable assignments31Janis Papanagnou
12 Oct 24 i  +* Re: Different variable assignments5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 i  i`* Re: Different variable assignments4Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24 i  i `* Re: Different variable assignments3Janis Papanagnou
19 Oct 24 i  i  `* coprocs in bash & ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)2Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24 i  i   `- Re: coprocs in bash & ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)1Janis Papanagnou
12 Oct 24 i  +* Re: Different variable assignments24Frank Winkler
12 Oct 24 i  i+- Re: Different variable assignments1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Oct 24 i  i`* Re: Different variable assignments22Janis Papanagnou
12 Oct 24 i  i +* Re: Different variable assignments20Lem Novantotto
12 Oct 24 i  i i`* Re: Different variable assignments19Frank Winkler
12 Oct 24 i  i i +* Re: Different variable assignments3Lem Novantotto
19 Oct 24 i  i i i`* lastpipe (Was: Different variable assignments)2Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24 i  i i i `- Re: lastpipe (Was: Different variable assignments)1Lem Novantotto
12 Oct 24 i  i i +* Re: Different variable assignments4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Oct 24 i  i i i`* Re: Different variable assignments3Janis Papanagnou
12 Oct 24 i  i i i `* Re: Different variable assignments2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Oct 24 i  i i i  `- Re: Different variable assignments1Janis Papanagnou
13 Oct 24 i  i i +* Re: Different variable assignments3Lem Novantotto
13 Oct 24 i  i i i+- Re: Different variable assignments1Lem Novantotto
13 Oct 24 i  i i i`- Re: Different variable assignments1Lem Novantotto
15 Oct 24 i  i i `* Re: Different variable assignments8Frank Winkler
24 Oct 24 i  i i  `* Re: Different variable assignments7Frank Winkler
24 Oct 24 i  i i   +* Re: Different variable assignments3Kenny McCormack
24 Oct 24 i  i i   i`* Re: Different variable assignments2Frank Winkler
25 Oct 24 i  i i   i `- Re: Different variable assignments1Janis Papanagnou
25 Oct 24 i  i i   `* Re: Different variable assignments3Lem Novantotto
25 Oct 24 i  i i    `* tee with no args is a no-op (Was: Different variable assignments)2Kenny McCormack
25 Oct 24 i  i i     `- Re: tee with no args is a no-op (Was: Different variable assignments)1Lem Novantotto
12 Oct 24 i  i `- Re: Different variable assignments1Frank Winkler
19 Oct 24 i  `- lastpipe (Was: Different variable assignments)1Kenny McCormack
11 Oct 24 `* Re: Different variable assignments26Helmut Waitzmann
11 Oct 24  +* Re: Different variable assignments23Frank Winkler
11 Oct 24  i+* Re: Different variable assignments21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24  ii`* Re: Different variable assignments20Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24  ii `* Re: Different variable assignments19Janis Papanagnou
19 Oct 24  ii  +* coproc or whatever in bash and ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)4Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24  ii  i`* Re: coproc or whatever in bash and ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)3Janis Papanagnou
19 Oct 24  ii  i +- Re: coproc or whatever in bash and ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)1Janis Papanagnou
19 Oct 24  ii  i `- Re: coproc or whatever in bash and ksh (Was: Different variable assignments)1Kenny McCormack
19 Oct 24  ii  `* Re: Different variable assignments14Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24  ii   `* Re: Different variable assignments13Kenny McCormack
20 Oct 24  ii    `* Re: Different variable assignments12Janis Papanagnou
20 Oct 24  ii     `* coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments)11Kenny McCormack
25 Oct 24  ii      `* Re: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments)10Janis Papanagnou
25 Oct 24  ii       +* Re: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments)8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Oct 24  ii       i+* Re: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments)6Janis Papanagnou
25 Oct 24  ii       ii`* Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))5Kenny McCormack
25 Oct 24  ii       ii `* Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))4Janis Papanagnou
25 Oct 24  ii       ii  +- Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))1Lem Novantotto
25 Oct 24  ii       ii  `* Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))2Kenny McCormack
26 Oct 24  ii       ii   `- Re: Subjective "valuations" are all we have (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))1Janis Papanagnou
25 Oct 24  ii       i`- Re: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments)1Kenny McCormack
25 Oct 24  ii       `- How to do multiple concurrent coprocs in ksh (Was: coprocs - again (Was: Different variable assignments))1Kenny McCormack
12 Oct 24  i`- Re: Different variable assignments1Christian Weisgerber
15 Nov 24  `* Re: Different variable assignments2Kenny McCormack
16 Nov 24   `- Re: Different variable assignments1Lem Novantotto

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