Sujet : Re: Why a time of the real world must be galilean
De : mlwozniak (at) *nospam* wp.pl (Maciej Wozniak)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 11. Dec 2024, 22:18:24
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W dniu 11.12.2024 o 21:56, Python pisze:
Le 11/12/2024 à 21:29, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 11.12.2024 o 20:17, Python pisze:
Le 11/12/2024 à 08:17, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
W dniu 10.12.2024 o 20:45, Python pisze:
Le 10/12/2024 à 20:20, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
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How do you practically check your "t = t'" equations for clocks standing next to each other?
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I read the numbers they display and I compare them.
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Good.
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Then for distant mutually at rest clocks with no
gravity involved?
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I don't.
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Sad. You don't. You can't. We can.
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No you can't either. Sorry, There is a small technical detail: those
"distant clocks" are not moving wrt each
other.
How do you ensure that? By assuming the
condition a priori;and you can do it because
you're only applying your procedure
in your gedanken. Am I incorrect ?
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You are. I put two clocks at the extremity of a rod.
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Yeah, sure - "distant" clocks at the
extremity of the rod - very practical
indeed, isn't it?
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This is quite
reasonable to assume they are at rest wrt to each other, isn't it?
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No. Take 2 bodies - one orbitting the other.
Join them with a rod, do you secure their relative
immobility ? Yeah, you imagined and insisted
Gdańsk and Warsaw aren't moving wrt each other. You're
such an idiot.
What is the relative speed between Gdansk and Warsaw then?
Would have to calculate.
Another example. Let's take a rod, 2 clocks at each
end, it is rotating around its center. Is synchronizing
the clocks with the Holiest Procedure valid here? Does
the rod secure the clocks to be in rest wrt each
other, poor stinker?
You're only believing [into] a great
practical procedure - because your is pumping you with gedanken fairy
tales where it works fine.
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Nope. If such a procedure would fail it could be checked.
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How could it fail if you have never used it.
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No magic, and if gravity could not be ignored in a given practical setup
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So, where, precisely, was your [method]
applied. In practice.
I asked for yours
And I asked where, precisely, was your idiocy
applied. In practice.
No answer? Of course, poor stinker.