Sujet : [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. (was Re: Young people peering)
De : zerda (at) *nospam* umbrellix.net (The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning)
Groupes : news.software.nntpDate : 21. Apr 2024, 02:28:52
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I am, in fact, advocating censorship. Why shouldn't we censor someone
whose "contributions" amount to driving healthy discussion off the 'net?
There was something about good money being displaced by bad, and while it
does not apply to bullion money for various reasons, it does apply to
debates. Bad arguments displace good arguments when both are given equal,
rather than due, weight, because they are propounded more insistently
(have you ever seen Alex Jones?), and I've seen this time and time again.
This is why moderation is needed when there are arguments - to flag up
obvious bad arguments and bad ways of arguing, and ensure that bad
arguments cannot displace good.
That said, this subthread is, partially by my hand (or should I say 'paw'?
I am a dragon, after all...) becoming offtopic for this newsgroup. If
someone here might, in good faith, suggest another newsgroup to xpost to
and set as a singular FU-To:, I'd most appreciate that, and I suspect
anyone setting up or developing NNTP software would, as well.
As of Sat, 20 Apr 2024 21:45:21 +0100, in message
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snipeco.2@gmail.com,
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
wrote:
The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> top-posted:
Banish from thy mind the idea that I did not notice this remark.
Understand that we don't believe we would necessarily fail.
Instead, the values of this network do not and cannot align with my
values.
This is why I am demotivated. The technical challenge is surmountable,
almost easy, in my estimation. I recommend everyone give it a go, at
least to start a private, non-Usenet NNTP forum. The social challenge
makes me wonder if I should not instead try to come to command an army
and destroy the entire network, collateral damage be damned.
When I come across Usenet admins, they cannot clearly say that they
will ban and filter anyone they come across committing harassment, nor
that they will institute a code of conduct which is actively
antifascist, because the values of the network are not actively
antifascist and in fact tend towards calling antifascists whiners.
[...]
You appear to be advocating censorship. Usenet is a rare bastion of
free speech. All shades of opinion are given equal weight in the court
of its readership, including those opinions that some do not like. This
is in the nature of debate. Valid arguments will win debates, others
will fail.
-- Lightning Bjornsson <dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net> - Member Switchposters United for Justice - <https://spufj.trd.is./>Some people don't like multiline signatures. I kindly request that they keep their concerns in their own brains. Usenet isn't what it used to be.
The servers are more powerful, have more storage, and have faster uplinks
in even the worst cases. Long sigs can't hurt you anymore.
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
14 Apr 24 | Young people peering | 100 | | The Doctor |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Marco Moock |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 6 | | Retro Guy |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Grant Taylor |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | rek2 hispagatos |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | dgold |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | SugarBug |
10 Oct 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Schlomo Goldberg |
14 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 5 | | Stefan Ram |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | candycanearter07 |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | The Doctor |
7 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | immibis |
7 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Kyonshi |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Niklas H |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | SugarBug |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | The Doctor |
15 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | John Levine |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | David Ritz |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 38 | | Kyonshi |
16 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 33 | | The Doctor |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 31 | | Retro Guy |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 19 | | Kyonshi |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Retro Guy |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Marco Moock |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Retro Guy |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 15 | | The Doctor |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 4 | | Kyonshi |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | SugarBug |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | rek2 hispagatos |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | The Doctor |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 10 | | SugarBug |
14 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 8 | | Van Camp |
14 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 5 | | Russ Allbery |
15 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Grant Taylor |
15 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Russ Allbery |
16 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Grant Taylor |
19 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
14 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Frank Slootweg |
15 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Grant Taylor |
10 Oct 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Schlomo Goldberg |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 11 | | candycanearter07 |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 10 | | Retro Guy |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 9 | | candycanearter07 |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 8 | | Retro Guy |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 6 | | Grant Taylor |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Russ Allbery |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | SugarBug |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Russ Allbery |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Marco Moock |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Grant Taylor |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Kyonshi |
17 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 4 | | Stefan Ram |
18 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Kerr-Mudd, John |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Computer Nerd Kev |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Sn!pe |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 44 | | The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 42 | | Grant Taylor |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 41 | | Retro Guy |
19 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Ted Heise |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 37 | | The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 4 | | Marco Moock |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | Russ Allbery |
21 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Ross Finlayson |
23 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | candycanearter07 |
20 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 31 | | Sn!pe |
21 Apr 24 | [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. (was Re: Young people peering) | 23 | | The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 14 | | Sn!pe |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 9 | | Adam H. Kerman |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 8 | | Sn!pe |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 7 | | Marco Moock |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 2 | | Sn!pe |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | D |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 4 | | Retro Guy |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | Sn!pe |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 2 | | Marco Moock |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | Adam H. Kerman |
22 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 3 | | Imran Zukhova |
22 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | Adam H. Kerman |
22 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | Mr Ön!on |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. (was Re: Young people peering) | 1 | | yeti |
21 Apr 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. (was Re: Young people peering) | 1 | | Marco Moock |
16 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. (was Re: Young people peering) | 6 | | immibis |
16 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is good, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should commit some client-side censorship, otherwise known as the killfile. | 1 | | Sn!pe |
16 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is very bad, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should kill yourself | 4 | | Hassan Nasrallah |
17 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is very bad, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should kill yourself | 3 | | Hassan Nasrallah |
17 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is very bad, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should kill yourself | 2 | | Sn!pe |
17 May 24 | Re: [OFFTOPIC] Censorship is very bad, actually. If you don't like that fact, maybe you should kill yourself | 1 | | yeti |
7 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 3 | | immibis |
7 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 2 | | Adam H. Kerman |
7 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Sn!pe |
16 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 4 | | Blue-Maned_Hawk |
16 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Frank Slootweg |
16 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Adam H. Kerman |
16 May 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | D |
21 Apr 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | yeti |
10 Oct 24 | Re: Young people peering | 1 | | Schlomo Goldberg |