Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)

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Sujet : Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)
De : news.dead.person.stones (at) *nospam* darjeeling.plus.com (Mike Terry)
Groupes : rec.puzzles sci.math
Date : 06. May 2025, 23:29:51
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On 06/05/2025 20:47, Richard Tobin wrote:
In article <14b4afbbf6091c2c839beec0c3c41f21@www.novabbs.com>,
HenHanna  <HenHanna@dev.null> wrote:
 
What's not at all obvious (intuitive) for me is.... why or how
                       the max Volume is achieved at   x=1/6
 Note that x=1/6 makes the total area of the sides equal to the area of
the base (4/9).  I wouldn't be surprised if that is a special case of
some more general result.
 -- Richard
 
That makes sense - when we make the 4 cutout squares bigger, increasing their side length by a very small amount s, the effect on the cistern is, broadly
a)  increase the height by s, which /increases/ its volume by A.s
     [A being the area of the base]
b)  decrease the "radius" of the box by s, which /decreases/ its volume by B.s
     [B being the area of the sides]
So at the maximum volume these two effects must cancel out, and we will have A = B.  Yes there are higher order changes in volume involving s^2 and higher powers, but we neglect those as small compared to first order changes.
This is in effect doing calculus from scratch, ignoring higher order terms in s to get the derivative dV/dx which is set to zero.  The ignoring of higher terms is like what happens in the proof of the product rule for derivatives.
Mike.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 May 25 * Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)7HenHanna
3 May 25 +* Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)4Richard Tobin
6 May 25 i`* Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)3HenHanna
6 May 25 i `* Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)2Richard Tobin
6 May 25 i  `- Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)1Mike Terry
4 May 25 `* Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)2Ross Finlayson
4 May 25  `- Re: Maximize Cistern Volume -- (cut out 4 squares (at Corners) and discard them)1efji

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