Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 05:29:38
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On 7/10/2025 10:58 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2025-07-10 19:58, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/10/25 10:09 AM, olcott wrote:
 
According to the POE:
(a) The Moon is made of green cheese and
(b) the Moon does not exist
proves that
(c) Donald Trump is the Christ.
>
Rigth, but only because a side affect of (a) is that the moon must exist.
 Really, the problem here is that Olcott fails to distinguish between the truth of a conditional statement and the truth of the consequent of a conditional statement. They are not the same thing.
 ((X & ~X) implies Y) is necessarily true.
 
That is not the exact meaning of these words
   the principle of explosion is the law
   according to which any statement can be
   proven from a contradiction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion
∀x (⊥ ⊢ x). When we look at that in terms of the
syllogism it is horribly incorrect.
That logic does not require semantic relevance is
its key mistake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance_logic
Fixes some aspects of the problem.

Whether Y is true is a completely independent question.
 But Olcott seems to think that the truth of ((X & ~X) -> Y) somehow proves that Y is true. That's simply not how logic works.
 
You are addressing this different issue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradoxes_of_material_implication

I raise this point purely as a clarification. I'm well aware that this will have no impact on Olcott's (mis)understanding of logic.
 André
 
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jul15:09 * Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof12olcott
10 Jul15:38 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
10 Jul15:55 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul02:59 i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul02:58 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8Richard Damon
11 Jul04:58  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7André G. Isaak
11 Jul05:29   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6olcott
11 Jul05:42    +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4André G. Isaak
11 Jul06:12    i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3olcott
12 Jul18:09    i +- André G. Isaak still has not noticed his mistake1olcott
13 Jul00:03    i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul14:35    `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon

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