Re: How do we know that ChatGPT 4.0 correctly evaluated my ideas?

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Sujet : Re: How do we know that ChatGPT 4.0 correctly evaluated my ideas?
De : polcott2 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 07. Mar 2024, 19:36:26
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On 3/7/2024 9:50 AM, immibis wrote:
On 7/03/24 16:38, olcott wrote:
On 3/7/2024 5:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-03-06 17:08:25 +0000, olcott said:
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On 3/6/2024 3:06 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-03-06 07:11:34 +0000, olcott said:
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Chat GPT CAN'T understand the words, it has no programming about MEANING.
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You cant find any mistakes in any of its reasoning.
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*This paragraph precisely follows from its preceding dialogue*
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When an input, such as the halting problem's pathological input D, is
designed to contradict every value that the halting decider H returns,
it creates a self-referential paradox that prevents H from providing a
consistent and correct response. In this context, D can be seen as
posing an incorrect question to H, as its contradictory nature
undermines the possibility of a meaningful and accurate answer.
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That is essentially an agreement with Linz proof.
*It is not an agreement with the conclusion of this proof*
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Not explicitly but comes close enough that the final step is
trivial.
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It is an agreement with why Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ gets the wrong answer.
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That, too.
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Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqy ∞ // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ halts
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqn   // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ does not halt
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The Linz proof correctly proves that Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
can't possibly get the right answer and falsely
concludes that this means that H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ cannot
get the correct answer.
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*My H(D,D) and H1(D,D) prove otherwise*
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 An embedded copy of a machine is stipulated to always get the same result as the original machine.
*Until one carefully examines the proof that this is false*
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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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