Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)

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Sujet : Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 08. Mar 2024, 08:50:14
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On 3/7/24 10:09 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/7/2024 11:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/7/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote:
Olcott machines can compute the difference between H1(D,D) and H(D,D)
because Olcott machines can correctly determine whether or not they
themselves were called in recursive simulation.
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For H1(D,D) and H(D,D)it is the extra inputs of 00001422 and 00001522
For H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <H> and Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <Ĥ> the extra inputs are shown.
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When I keep repeating the above a few hundred more times
you will quit immediately forgetting that I ever said it.
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All you have done is show why your H / H1 have been disqualified from being Halt Deciders.
 Not at all. Not in the least little bit.
I have proved that a slight reconfiguration of Turing machines
defines a machine that is exactly a Turing machine except can
always correctly determine whether or not itself is called in
recursive simulation.
Nope.
You tried, but failed.
Your H and H1 likely will never answer when given the properly designed H^ input.
You are just a total failure, again.
And are just lying about it because you refuse to face the facts.

 
They are not Computations using only the description of the Computation to be decided on.
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This PROVES that they are not correct Halt Deciders.
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And you are proved to be just a pathetic and pathological liar.
 

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7 Mar 24 * We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)52olcott
8 Mar 24 +* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)49Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i`* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)48olcott
8 Mar 24 i +* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)18olcott
8 Mar 24 i i+* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)2olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii`- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i i+* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)10olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii+- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i ii`* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)8Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i ii `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)7olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii  `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)6Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i ii   `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)5olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii    `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)4Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i ii     `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)3olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii      `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)2olcott
8 Mar 24 i ii       `- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1olcott
8 Mar 24 i i`* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)5olcott
8 Mar 24 i i `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)4olcott
8 Mar 24 i i  `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D) --closure yet?--3olcott
8 Mar 24 i i   `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D) --closure yet?--2olcott
9 Mar 24 i i    `- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D) --Richard goes around in circles--1immibis
8 Mar 24 i `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)29André G. Isaak
8 Mar 24 i  +* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)27immibis
8 Mar 24 i  i+* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)23olcott
8 Mar 24 i  ii`* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)22Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i  ii `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)21olcott
8 Mar 24 i  ii  `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)20Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i  ii   `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)19olcott
8 Mar 24 i  ii    `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)18Yaxley Peaks
15 Mar 24 i  ii     `* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--17olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      +* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--13Fred. Zwarts
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i`* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--12olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i +* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--2Richard Damon
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i i`- Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--1olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i `* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--9immibis
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i  `* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--8olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   +* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--5immibis
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   i`* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--4olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   i `* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--3immibis
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   i  `* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--2olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   i   `- Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--1immibis
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i   `* Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--2Richard Damon
15 Mar 24 i  ii      i    `- Re: H(D,D)==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--1olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii      `* Re: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--3immibis
15 Mar 24 i  ii       `* Re: H(D,D) ==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--2olcott
15 Mar 24 i  ii        `- Re: H(D,D) ==0 is correct when reports on the actual behavior that it sees --outermost H--1immibis
8 Mar 24 i  i`* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)3Richard Damon
8 Mar 24 i  i `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)2immibis
8 Mar 24 i  i  `- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1olcott
8 Mar 24 i  `- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1olcott
8 Mar 24 `* Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)2immibis
8 Mar 24  `- Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)1olcott

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