Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions

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Sujet : Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions
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Date : 12. Mar 2024, 18:50:05
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On 12/03/24 17:12, olcott wrote:
 ∀ H ∈ Turing_Machine_Deciders
∃ TMD ∈ Turing_Machine_Descriptions  |
Predicted_Behavior(H, TMD) != Actual_Behavior(TMD)
 In all of the H/TMD cases above where
Predicted_Behavior(H, TMD) != Actual_Behavior(TMD)
H is being asked a question where both YES and NO
are the wrong answer.
So when I ask this Turing machine:
states={qy,qn}
start_state={qn}
whether it halts, the predicted behaviour is no but the actual behaviour is yes, so that means both YES and NO are the wrong answer, according to you?

It is not that H is gagged and cannot answer, it is
that both YES and NO are the wrong answer.
Once we understand that either YES or NO is the right answer, the whole rebuttal is tossed out as invalid and incorrect.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
12 Mar 24 * Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions16olcott
12 Mar 24 +* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions4olcott
12 Mar 24 i+* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions2immibis
12 Mar 24 ii`- Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions1olcott
12 Mar 24 i`- Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions1olcott
13 Mar 24 +* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions8Mikko
13 Mar 24 i`* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions7olcott
15 Mar 24 i `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions6Mikko
15 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions5olcott
15 Mar 24 i   +- Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions1Richard Damon
17 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions3Mikko
17 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions --Gödel--2olcott
19 Mar 24 i     `- Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions --Gödel--1Mikko
29 Apr 24 `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions3Barb Knox
30 Apr 24  `* Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions2olcott
30 Apr 24   `- Re: Proving my 2004 claim that some decider/input pairs are incorrect questions1Alan Mackenzie

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