Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--

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Sujet : Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 21. Apr 2024, 09:50:53
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On 2024-04-20 16:37:27 +0000, olcott said:

On 4/20/2024 2:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-04-19 02:25:48 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 4/18/2024 8:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 
Godel's proof you are quoting from had NOTHING to do with undecidability,
 *Mendelson (and everyone that knows these things) disagrees*
 https://sistemas.fciencias.unam.mx/~lokylog/images/Notas/la_aldea_de_la_logica/Libros_notas_varios/L_02_MENDELSON,%20E%20-%20Introduction%20to%20Mathematical%20Logic,%206th%20Ed%20-%20CRC%20Press%20(2015).pdf 
 On questions whether Gödel said something or not the sumpreme authority
is not Mendelson but Gödel.
 
 When some authors affirm that undecidability and incompleteness
are the exact same thing then whenever Gödel uses the term
incompleteness then he is also referring to the term undecidability.
That does not follow. Besides, a reference to the term "undecidability"
is not a reference to the concept 'undecidability'.
--
Mikko

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19 Apr 24 i    ii  `* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V22olcott
20 Apr 24 i    ii   `- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V21Richard Damon
20 Apr 24 i    i`* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V250Mikko
20 Apr 24 i    i `* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--49olcott
20 Apr 24 i    i  +- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Richard Damon
21 Apr 24 i    i  `* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--47Mikko
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21 Apr 24 i    i    +- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Richard Damon
21 Apr 24 i    i    +- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Richard Damon
22 Apr 24 i    i    `* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--43Mikko
22 Apr 24 i    i     +* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--10olcott
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24 Apr 24 i    i     ii   `- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Mikko
23 Apr 24 i    i     i`* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--4Richard Damon
23 Apr 24 i    i     i `* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--3olcott
24 Apr 24 i    i     i  +- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Richard Damon
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26 Apr 24 i    i            +- Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--1Richard Damon
26 Apr 24 i    i            +* Re: Undecidability based on epistemological antinomies V2 --Mendelson--7Ross Finlayson
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