Re: True on the basis of meaning

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Sujet : Re: True on the basis of meaning
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 11. May 2024, 05:35:17
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On 5/10/2024 10:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 5/10/24 10:36 PM, olcott wrote:
The entire body of expressions that are {true on the basis of their
meaning} involves nothing more or less than stipulated relations between
finite strings.
>
 You do know that what you are describing when applied to Formal Systems are the axioms of the system and the most primitively provable theorems.
 
YES and there are axioms that comprise the verbal model of the
actual world, thus Quine was wrong.

 You don't seem to understand what "Formal Logic" actually means.
 
Ultimately it is anchored in stipulated relations between finite
strings (AKA axioms) and expressions derived from applying truth
preserving operations to these axioms.

You also don't seem to understand the requirements of "Context" when applying the meaning of the words.
 
Sure I do. What I do not do is allow a wide range of subjective
interpretation. {The cow is dead} cannot be interpreted as
{The cow is running around} WITHOUT LYING.

For instance, in Computation Theory, the only simulation that can be used to determine behavior are non-aborted simulations, so that is the only sort of simulation actually considered to be a normal simulation.
 
My ideas can be directly derived from the foundational truths that
I listed above pertaining to relations between finite strings.

Of course, that blows up your ideas.
Only to those that refuse to go through all of the steps and
insist on leaping to conclusions anchored only on the rote
memorization of conventional wisdom.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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11 May 24 * True on the basis of meaning209olcott
11 May 24 `* Re: True on the basis of meaning208Richard Damon
11 May 24  `* Re: True on the basis of meaning207olcott
11 May 24   `* Re: True on the basis of meaning206Richard Damon
11 May 24    `* Re: True on the basis of meaning205olcott
11 May 24     +- Re: True on the basis of meaning1Richard Damon
12 May 24     `* Re: True on the basis of meaning203Mikko
12 May 24      `* Re: True on the basis of meaning202olcott
12 May 24       `* Re: True on the basis of meaning201Mikko
12 May 24        `* Re: True on the basis of meaning200olcott
12 May 24         +* Re: True on the basis of meaning183Richard Damon
12 May 24         i`* Re: True on the basis of meaning182olcott
12 May 24         i `* Re: True on the basis of meaning181Richard Damon
12 May 24         i  `* Re: True on the basis of meaning180olcott
12 May 24         i   +* Re: True on the basis of meaning163Richard Damon
12 May 24         i   i`* Re: True on the basis of meaning162olcott
13 May 24         i   i `* Re: True on the basis of meaning161Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i  `* Re: True on the basis of meaning160olcott
13 May 24         i   i   `* Re: True on the basis of meaning159Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i    `* Re: True on the basis of meaning158olcott
13 May 24         i   i     +* Re: True on the basis of meaning2olcott
13 May 24         i   i     i`- Re: True on the basis of meaning1Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i     `* Re: True on the basis of meaning155Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i      `* Re: True on the basis of meaning154olcott
13 May 24         i   i       `* Re: True on the basis of meaning153Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i        `* Re: True on the basis of meaning152olcott
13 May 24         i   i         `* Re: True on the basis of meaning151Richard Damon
13 May 24         i   i          `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !150olcott
14 May 24         i   i           `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !149Richard Damon
14 May 24         i   i            +* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !2olcott
14 May 24         i   i            i`- Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !1Richard Damon
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14 May 24         i   i              +* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method2olcott
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18 May 24         i   i                          i       `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method97olcott
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18 May 24         i   i                          i         `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method95olcott
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18 May 24         i   i                          i              `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method90Richard Damon
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18 May 24         i   i                          i               i`- Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method1Richard Damon
18 May 24         i   i                          i               `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method87olcott
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19 May 24         i   i                          i                     `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method81olcott
19 May 24         i   i                          i                      `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method80Richard Damon
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20 May 24         i   i                          i                        i  `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method60olcott
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