Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]

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Sujet : Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 12. May 2024, 09:47:13
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On 2024-05-11 16:06:29 +0000, olcott said:

On 5/11/2024 3:00 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-05-10 18:16:37 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 3/1/2024 12:41 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
 
Obviously a simulator has access to the internal state (tape contents etc.) of the simulated machine.  No problem there.
 What isn't allowed is the simulated machine altering its own behaviour by accessing data outside of its own state.  (I.e. accessing data from its parent simulators state.)
 While an "active-simulator" [my own term] is at liberty to combine
straight simulation with add-on "enhancements" that extend the
functionality of the simulated machine, in doing so it would no
longer be a simulator in the sense you need it to be.  So you
mustn't do this!
 In principle an incorrect simulation is permissible. However, to prove
that the result inferred from an incorrect simulation is correct may
be impossible.
 
 Within the conventional terms-of-the-art of {termination analyzer}
and {simulator} an incorrect simulation is forbidden.
The conventional meaning of "termination analyzer" does not prohibit
incorrect simulation. Whether an incorrect simulation can be called
"simulation" is a matter of opinion. In any case, when a methind that
uses an incorrect simulation is described the incorrectness of the
simulation, whther calles "simulation" or otherwise, must be mentioned
and its role be explained.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 May 24 * Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]12olcott
11 May 24 `* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]11olcott
11 May 24  +* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]2Mike Terry
11 May 24  i`- Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry](apology)1olcott
11 May 24  +* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]5Richard Damon
11 May 24  i`* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]4olcott
11 May 24  i +* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]2olcott
12 May 24  i i`- Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]1Richard Damon
12 May 24  i `- Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]1Richard Damon
12 May 24  `* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]3Mikko
12 May 24   `* Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]2olcott
12 May 24    `- Re: Linz's proofs and other undecidable decision problems [LP as basis] [Mike Terry]1Richard Damon

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