Re: Is Richard a Liar?

Am Tue, 14 May 2024 13:40:31 -0500 schrieb olcott:

On 5/14/2024 1:30 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 14.mei.2024 om 19:52 schreef olcott:

On 5/14/2024 12:49 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 14.mei.2024 om 19:14 schreef olcott:

On 5/14/2024 11:13 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 14.mei.2024 om 17:45 schreef olcott:

On 5/14/2024 10:42 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:

Op 14.mei.2024 om 17:30 schreef olcott:

On 5/14/2024 10:08 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

[ Followup-To: set ]
In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/14/2024 4:44 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-05-12 15:58:02 +0000, olcott said:

On 5/12/2024 10:21 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-05-12 11:34:17 +0000, Richard Damon said:

On 5/12/24 5:19 AM, Mikko wrote:

On 2024-05-11 16:26:30 +0000, olcott said:

wtf is this ^

Before we can talk about this, first there must be 100% agreement
about:
1) What is a "verified fact"? Who needs to do the verification
before it can be said that it is a verified fact?

>
I am ONLY referring to expressions that are PROVEN to be {true
entirely on the basis of their meaning}.
*CONCRETE EXAMPLES*
How do we know that 2 + 3 = 5?

>
If needed we can write out the proof for this, starting from the
axioms for natural numbers. That proof is well known.
>
But nobody here knows the proof for your assertion above, that it is
a verified fact that it cannot reach past line 03. So, we would like
to see that proof. Just the claim that it has been proven is not
enough.
>

The "nobody here" you are referring to must be clueless about the
semantics of the C programming language.
>

Are you honest? Please, give the proof, instead of keeping away from
it.

I have been an expert C/C++ programmer for decades.

Oh, so it’s only yourself who’s the expert? I would like to see some of
your projects.

If you knew C will enough yourself you would comprehend that my claim
about:
Any H/D pair matching the above template where D(D) is simulated by the
same H(D,D) that it calls cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.
This is a simple software engineering verified fact.

proof pls

My grandfather was a diagnostician and pathologist said: "You can't
argue with ignorance".

He must have known.

--
joes