Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems

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Sujet : Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 13. Jun 2024, 04:01:31
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On 6/12/2024 8:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/12/24 9:37 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/12/2024 7:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
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Nope. The concept and definition of natural numbers exist, but doesn't derive from any part of the "universe".
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Note, they don't "exist" as a substance, only as a concept, and the universe is substance.
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OF EVERYTHING IF THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES AN EXPRESSION
OF LANGUAGE X TRUE THENN (THEN AND ONLY THEN) X HAS NO TRUTH-MAKER.
 And how can we tell that there is nothing that makes the expression of language true?
 
What makes the expression: "a frog" true?

Do you mean that Russel's Teapot has a truth-maker, because we can not show that there is nothing that makes it true?
 
Truth need not be known.
If of EVERYTHING there is NOTHING that makes an expression
of language X true then X is untrue.

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FOR THE SAME X
OF EVERYTHING IF THERE IS NOTHING THAT MAKES AN EXPRESSION
OF LANGUAGE ~X TRUE THENN (THEN AND ONLY THEN) X IS NOT A TRUTH-BEARER.
  So, how do we know about that?
 
Try to show that "a frog" is true.
Did that take an infinite search?

proving non-existance is very hard.
 
There are many unknowns.
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9 Jun 24 * Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems63olcott
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems55olcott
9 Jun 24 i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems54Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems53olcott
9 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems52Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems51olcott
9 Jun 24 i    +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems40Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i    i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems39olcott
9 Jun 24 i    i +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems37Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems36olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems34Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems33olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i i `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems32Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i i  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems31olcott
11 Jun 24 i    i i i   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems30Richard Damon
11 Jun 24 i    i i i    `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems29olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems28Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems27olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems26Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems25olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems24Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i          `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems23olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems22Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i            `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems21olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i             `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems20Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i              `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems19olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i               `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems18Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems17olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                 `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems16Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems15olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems14Richard Damon
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13 Jun 24 i    i i i                     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems12Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems11olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems10Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems9olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems8Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                          `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems7olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems6Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                            `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems5olcott
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                             `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems4Richard Damon
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                              `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems3olcott
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                               `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems2Richard Damon
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                                `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1Richard Damon
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12 Jun 24 i     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works9Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works8olcott
12 Jun 24 i       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works7Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works6olcott
12 Jun 24 i         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works5Richard Damon
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13 Jun 24 i           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works3Richard Damon
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13 Jun 24 i             `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works1Richard Damon
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9 Jun 24   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems3Richard Damon
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