Re: Why do people here insist on denying these verified facts?

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Sujet : Re: Why do people here insist on denying these verified facts?
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 24. Jun 2024, 15:52:23
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On 6/24/2024 2:31 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-23 13:25:36 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 6/23/2024 4:50 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-06-22 19:03:13 +0000, olcott said:
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On 6/22/2024 1:55 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/22/24 2:49 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/22/2024 1:43 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/22/24 1:29 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/22/2024 12:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/22/24 12:18 PM, olcott wrote:
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void DDD()
{
   HHH0(DDD);
}
>
The input to HHH0(DDD) includes itself.
The input to HHH1(DDD) DOES NOT include itself.
>
It is stipulated that correct emulation is defined by the
semantics of the x86 programming language and nothing else.
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And thus, your emulation traces show that your "Simulating Halt Deciders" do not do a "Correct Simulation"
>
Apparently your ADD preventing you from paying close attention
to ALL of my words.
>
*Function names adapted to correspond to my updated paper*
>
void DDD()
{
   H0(DDD);
}
>
*When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct*
*emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language*
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*When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct*
*emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language*
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*When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct*
*emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language*
>
*When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct*
*emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language*
>
*When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct*
*emulation is the semantics of the x86 programming language*
>
then we see that when DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that
its call to H0(DDD) cannot possibly return.
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Since your H0 has never demonstrated that is actually DOES the correct simulation per your stipulation,
>
Liar
>
>
Then where is it?
>
When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation
is the semantics of the x86 programming language then we see that
when DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that its call to H0(DDD)
cannot possibly return.
>
Semantics of the x86 programming language does not specifiy emulation
or correctness of emulation.
>
>
WRONG!
 Unless you point where in Intel's documentation emulation or correctness
of emulation is specified you have no basis to say "WRONG".
 
Not at all. That is the same as saying that 2 + 3 = 5
is wrong until proven by PA.

Otherwise we could say that for the decimal integers
2 + 3 = 17 and the semantics of arithmetic does not disagree.
 I can believe you couls but I would not.
 
The semantics of arithmetic agrees that for the decimal
integers 2 + 3 = 5.
 Intel's processors seem to agree, too. But I havn't checked every one.
 
_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
The call from DDD to H0(DDD) when DDD is correctly emulated
by H0 cannot possibly return.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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