Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language

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Sujet : Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 29. Jun 2024, 21:25:59
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On 6/29/2024 2:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/29/24 2:47 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/29/2024 1:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/29/24 2:06 PM, olcott wrote:
<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
stop running unless aborted then
H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>

>
*N steps of correct simulation are specified*
H correctly simulates its input D until H
H correctly simulates its input D until H
H correctly simulates its input D until H
H correctly simulates its input D until H
>
Which does not determine the ACTUAL behavor
>
>
_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>
That you already know that it does prove that DDD correctly
emulated by HHH would never stop running unless aborted
or out-of-memory error
>
*proves that you are trying to get away with a bald-faced lie*
I really hope that you repent before it is too late.
>
>
 Nope, just shows your stupidity, as the above code has NO defined behavior as it accesses code that is not defined by it.
 
*Its behavior is completely defined by*
(a) The finite string x86 machine code that includes
     the recursive emulation call from DDD to HHH(DDD).
(b) The semantics of the x86 language.
(c) That HHH is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates
     N steps of DDD.
*I am not infallible so I may have left out a detail*
*These facts are deduced from the above facts*
(1) The call from DDD to HHH(DDD) when N steps of DDD are
    correctly emulated by any pure function x86 emulator
    HHH cannot possibly return.
(2) (1) means that DDD correctly simulated by HHH would
     never stop running unless aborted.
I don't understand why you risk your salvation
by trying to get away with such a bald-faced lie.
Those the believe salvation cannot be lost may
correct in the God sees their future behavior thus
never granting them salvation in the first place.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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29 Jun 24 +* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language21Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i`* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language20olcott
29 Jun 24 i `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language19Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language18olcott
29 Jun 24 i   `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language17Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i    `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language16olcott
29 Jun 24 i     `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language15Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i      `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language14olcott
29 Jun 24 i       `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language13Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i        `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language12olcott
29 Jun 24 i         `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language11Richard Damon
29 Jun 24 i          `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language10olcott
29 Jun 24 i           `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language9Richard Damon
30 Jun 24 i            `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language8olcott
30 Jun 24 i             `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language7Richard Damon
30 Jun 24 i              `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language6olcott
30 Jun 24 i               `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language5Richard Damon
30 Jun 24 i                `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language4olcott
30 Jun 24 i                 `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language3Richard Damon
30 Jun 24 i                  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language2olcott
30 Jun 24 i                   `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language1Richard Damon
30 Jun 24 +* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language48olcott
30 Jun 24 i+* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language37Richard Damon
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30 Jun 24 ii+* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language29olcott
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1 Jul 24 iii `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language27olcott
1 Jul 24 iii  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language26Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii   `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language25olcott
1 Jul 24 iii    `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language24Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii     `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language23olcott
1 Jul 24 iii      `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language22Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii       `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language21olcott
1 Jul 24 iii        `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language20Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii         `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language19olcott
1 Jul 24 iii          `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language18Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii           `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language17olcott
1 Jul 24 iii            `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language16Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii             +* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language11olcott
1 Jul 24 iii             i`* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language10Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii             i `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language9olcott
2 Jul 24 iii             i  +* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language3Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 iii             i  i`* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language2olcott
2 Jul 24 iii             i  i `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language1Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 iii             i  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language5Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 iii             i   `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language4olcott
2 Jul 24 iii             i    `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language3Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 iii             i     `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language2olcott
2 Jul 24 iii             i      `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language1Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii             `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language4olcott
1 Jul 24 iii              `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language3Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 iii               `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language2olcott
2 Jul 24 iii                `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language1Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 ii`* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language --- repeat until acknowledged4olcott
1 Jul 24 ii `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language --- repeat until acknowledged3Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language --- repeat until acknowledged2olcott
1 Jul 24 ii   `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language --- repeat until acknowledged1Richard Damon
1 Jul 24 i+* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language6Fred. Zwarts
1 Jul 24 ii`* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language5olcott
1 Jul 24 ii `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language4Fred. Zwarts
1 Jul 24 ii  `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language3olcott
1 Jul 24 ii   `* Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language2olcott
1 Jul 24 ii    `- Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language1Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24 i`* DDD correctly emulated by any pure function HHH that can possibly exist DOES NOT HALT4olcott
3 Jul 24 i `* Re: DDD correctly emulated by any pure function HHH that can possibly exist DOES NOT HALT3Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24 i  `* Re: DDD correctly emulated by any pure function HHH that can possibly exist DOES NOT HALT2olcott
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