Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--

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Sujet : Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--
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Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 08. Mar 2024, 03:37:29
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On 8/03/24 00:04, olcott wrote:
On 3/7/2024 4:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/7/24 12:20 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/7/2024 1:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/6/24 11:11 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/7/2024 12:37 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/6/24 10:17 PM, olcott wrote:
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Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqy ∞ // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ halts
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqn     // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ does not halt
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The design of Olcott Machines makes quite easy for Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
to get its abort criteria.
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Which doesn't match the Halting Problem requirements,
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It does match the Halting Problem requirements, when
they are implemented indirectly as "abort criteria".
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Which is a different criteria, so you are just admitting that you are using a strawman desception and thus INTENTIONALLY LYING.
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Somehow you think lies are ok if they help you prove your false statements.
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The Linz second ⊢* enables H to compute any damn
thing as long as this ends up computing halting.
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Note quite, it is whatever the algorithm for H generates.
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That exact same algorithm exists in H^.H, so that WILL get the same answer, and since you logic says it doesn't, that means you are lying that H^ was built by the specification, or as to what H will actually do.
 *Already addressed in my reply to you here*
We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D)
 
We know it's because H and H1 are different programs, not copies.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Mar 24 * Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--12Richard Damon
7 Mar 24 `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--11olcott
8 Mar 24  `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--10Richard Damon
8 Mar 24   `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--9olcott
8 Mar 24    +* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--2Richard Damon
8 Mar 24    i`- Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--1olcott
8 Mar 24    `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--6immibis
8 Mar 24     `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--5olcott
8 Mar 24      `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement--4immibis
8 Mar 24       `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --closure yet?--3olcott
8 Mar 24        `* Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --closure yet?--2immibis
8 Mar 24         `- Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --closure yet?--1olcott

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