Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders

Liste des GroupesRevenir à s logic 
Sujet : Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders
De : news (at) *nospam* immibis.com (immibis)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 14. Mar 2024, 04:47:36
Autres entêtes
Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID : <ustog8$1cpcu$1@dont-email.me>
References : 1 2 3
User-Agent : Mozilla Thunderbird
On 14/03/24 02:15, olcott wrote:
On 3/13/2024 7:34 PM, immibis wrote:
On 14/03/24 00:20, olcott wrote:
For any program H that might determine whether programs
halt, a "pathological" program D, called with some input,
can pass its own source and its input to H and then
specifically do the opposite of what H predicts D will do.
No H can exist that handles this case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
>
It's a different D for every H. A lot of Hs correctly handle Ds for other Hs.
>
When you ask a man that has never been married:
Have you stopped beating your wife?
>
the correct answer is no.
 That affirms a false presupposition thus cannot be correct.
it does not.

 
Although there is a mapping from some men to YES/NO
there is no mapping from never married men to YES/NO
thus the question is incorrect for all unmarried men.
>
the correct answer is no.
>
Although there is a mapping from some TM/input pairs to YES/NO
there is no mapping from H/D to YES/NO
H(D) isn't valid input since H has two inputs.
 there is no mapping from H(D,D) to YES/NO
 
H(D,D) -> YES
and
H(D,D) -> NO
are two mappings

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Mar 24 * Incorrect questions and halt deciders29olcott
14 Mar 24 +* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders17Richard Damon
14 Mar 24 i`* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders16olcott
14 Mar 24 i +* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders2immibis
14 Mar 24 i i`- Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders1olcott
14 Mar 24 i `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders13Richard Damon
14 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders12olcott
14 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders11Richard Damon
14 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders10olcott
14 Mar 24 i     `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders9olcott
14 Mar 24 i      `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders8immibis
14 Mar 24 i       `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--7olcott
14 Mar 24 i        `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--6olcott
15 Mar 24 i         `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--5olcott
15 Mar 24 i          `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--4olcott
15 Mar 24 i           `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--3olcott
15 Mar 24 i            `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--2olcott
15 Mar 24 i             `- Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders --Liars?--1olcott
14 Mar 24 `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders11immibis
14 Mar 24  `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders10olcott
14 Mar 24   `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders9immibis
14 Mar 24    `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders8olcott
14 Mar 24     `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders7immibis
14 Mar 24      `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders6olcott
14 Mar 24       `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders5immibis
14 Mar 24        `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders4olcott
14 Mar 24         `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders3immibis
14 Mar 24          `* Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders2olcott
14 Mar 24           `- Re: Incorrect questions and halt deciders1Richard Damon

Haut de la page

Les messages affichés proviennent d'usenet.

NewsPortal