Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct

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Sujet : Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 29. Mar 2024, 19:24:30
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On 3/29/24 1:12 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/29/2024 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/29/24 11:51 AM, olcott wrote:
On 3/29/2024 8:13 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/28/24 11:34 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/28/2024 9:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/28/24 10:01 PM, olcott wrote:
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Right, but as you have admitted, the behavior of that machine code CHANGES depending on what is at the location of H.
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The behavior of D simulated by any H that can possibly exist
remains the same.
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Nope.
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The behavior of D CHANGES based on the H it attaches to.
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The behavior of D simulated by any H that can possibly exist
remains the same.
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Nope. Since you are using a "meaningless" term, it is just a non-truth bearer. Partial simulations do not reveal behavior, only complete simulations.
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Yes and your same reasoning says that mathematical induction can't
possibly work. No finite sequences of steps can every be extrapolated
to an in finite number of steps.
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Why do you say that?
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I guess you don't think all the Natural Numbers exist.
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You are just showing that you are using incorrect logic;
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Are you trying to get away with saying that you simply do not
"believe in" mathematical induction?
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You need to show that actual steps that PROVE your induction, which I don't think you actually know what they are.
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 You already know these steps as you have implicitly admitted when
you repeatedly said that when no H(D,D) aborts its simulation then
H(D,D) never halts.
 
Nope, since D changes behavior with a change of the definition of H.
That statement is not applicable.
The behavior of D for ANY other H has no bearing on the behavior of D with this H.
To claim otherwise is just a LIE.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Mar 24 * No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct39olcott
27 Mar 24 `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct38Fred. Zwarts
27 Mar 24  `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct37olcott
28 Mar 24   `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct36Richard Damon
28 Mar 24    `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct35olcott
28 Mar 24     `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct34Richard Damon
28 Mar 24      `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct33olcott
28 Mar 24       `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct32Richard Damon
28 Mar 24        `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct31olcott
28 Mar 24         `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct30Richard Damon
28 Mar 24          `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct29olcott
28 Mar 24           `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct28Richard Damon
28 Mar 24            `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct27olcott
28 Mar 24             +* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct13Fred. Zwarts
28 Mar 24             i`* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct12olcott
28 Mar 24             i +* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct2Fred. Zwarts
28 Mar 24             i i`- Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct1olcott
29 Mar 24             i `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct9Richard Damon
29 Mar 24             i  `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct8olcott
29 Mar 24             i   `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct7Richard Damon
29 Mar 24             i    `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct6olcott
29 Mar 24             i     `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct5Richard Damon
29 Mar 24             i      `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct4olcott
29 Mar 24             i       `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct3Richard Damon
29 Mar 24             i        `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct2olcott
29 Mar 24             i         `- Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct1Richard Damon
29 Mar 24             `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct13Richard Damon
29 Mar 24              `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct12olcott
29 Mar 24               `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct11Richard Damon
29 Mar 24                `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct10olcott
29 Mar 24                 `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct9Richard Damon
29 Mar 24                  `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct8olcott
29 Mar 24                   `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct7Richard Damon
29 Mar 24                    `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct6olcott
29 Mar 24                     `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct5Richard Damon
29 Mar 24                      `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct4olcott
29 Mar 24                       +- Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct1Richard Damon
30 Mar 24                       `* Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct2olcott
30 Mar 24                        `- Re: No one can correctly refute that simulating abort decider A(D,D) is correct1Richard Damon

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