Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?

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Sujet : Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
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Date : 03. Apr 2024, 04:10:26
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On 4/2/24 12:50 PM, olcott wrote:
There is a great debate about whether an expression of language
can be true without a truth maker.
Not in Standard Formal Logic.
In Standard Formal Logic, a statments truth arises solely from have a connection (possible infinite in length) via valid arguements to the truthmakes of the system.

 Truthmaker Maximalism defended GONZALO RODRIGUEZ-PEREYRA
https://philarchive.org/archive/RODTMD
WHich isn't about Formal Systems, but just more generic philosophy.

 A truth without a truthmaker is like a cake without a baker,
non-existent.
 True and unprovable is self-contradictory once one understands
how true really works the way that I and Wittgenstein do.
https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
 
Nope, because True allows for an INFINITE change of reasoning, while PROOF requires a finite chain to allow it to come into the domain of Knowledge, since we can not view an infinite chain of reason since we are finite beings.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Apr 24 * Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?31olcott
3 Apr 24 +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Richard Damon
4 Apr 24 +* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Apr 24 i`* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?26olcott
4 Apr 24 i `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?25Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Apr 24 i  `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?24olcott
5 Apr 24 i   `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Apr 24 i    `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?22olcott
6 Apr 24 i     `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Apr 24 i      `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?20olcott
6 Apr 24 i       +* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Apr 24 i       i+* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?6Fred. Zwarts
6 Apr 24 i       ii+- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Richard Damon
6 Apr 24 i       ii`* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?4olcott
7 Apr 24 i       ii `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?3Fred. Zwarts
7 Apr 24 i       ii  +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Ross Finlayson
7 Apr 24 i       ii  `- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1olcott
6 Apr 24 i       i`* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?2olcott
6 Apr 24 i       i `- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Richard Damon
6 Apr 24 i       +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Richard Damon
7 Apr 24 i       +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1olcott
13 Apr 24 i       +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Ross Finlayson
27 Apr 24 i       `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Apr 24 i        +- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1Ross Finlayson
27 Apr 24 i        `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?5olcott
27 Apr 24 i         `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?4Ross Finlayson
27 Apr 24 i          `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?3olcott
27 Apr 24 i           `* Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?2Ross Finlayson
27 Apr 24 i            `- Re: Can there be a truth without a truthmaker?1olcott
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