Re: Unconventional termination analyzer D correctly reports halt status of HP input

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Sujet : Re: Unconventional termination analyzer D correctly reports halt status of HP input
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 12. May 2024, 01:25:04
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On 5/11/24 2:12 PM, olcott wrote:
Unconventional termination analyzer H correctly reports
the halt status of the halting problem's counter-example
input.
"Unconventional" for sure, you definiotn of (d) below says your system doesn't obey the basic rules of programs as used in fields like computaiton theory, as those give answers only in final states.
How can H return its answer to its caller, and still continue?
You just added the need to fully define what you mean by a program.
So, it seems you finally broke down and admitted that none of your work has ANYTHING to do with the fields you claim to be in, because all of those are based on the conventional definition of a program, which you just admitted you are not using.

 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x)  // ptr is pointer to int function
01 int D(ptr x)
02 {
03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
04   if (Halt_Status)
05     HERE: goto HERE;
06   return Halt_Status;
07 }
08
09 int main()
10 {
11   H(D,D);
12 }
 *A simulator is the conventional meaning of an x86 emulator or a UTM*
Unconventional termination analyzer is exactly the conventional
term-of-the-art {termination analyzer} except that it need not halt.
And thus you admit that you "model of programming" isn't like anything anyone is using, so none of your results mean anything.

 *D simulated by H where H can*
(a) Watch all of the state changes of its input.
(b) Analyze these state changes.
(c) Correctly determine that its input (and itself) would never halt.
(d) Continue to report that its input would never halt by
transitioning to a special non-final state indicating this.
 *All the while remaining a pure simulator with extra features*
 This H is neither a halt decider nor a conventional {termination
analyzer}. It is an unconventional {termination analyzer} that
correctly reports the halt status of its pathological input.
 This exact same reasoning applies to the Peter Linz halting problem
proof where embedded_H is an unconventional {termination analyzer}.
 When Peter Linz Ĥ is applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qy ∞
Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qn
 *Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D*
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369971402_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 May 24 * Unconventional termination analyzer D correctly reports halt status of HP input2olcott
12 May 24 `- Re: Unconventional termination analyzer D correctly reports halt status of HP input1Richard Damon

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