Sujet : Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Mike Terry Error
De : news2 (at) *nospam* immibis.com (John Smith)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logicDate : 05. Jun 2024, 03:13:37
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On 5/06/24 04:07, olcott wrote:
On 6/4/2024 8:39 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/06/24 03:33, olcott wrote:
On 6/4/2024 8:20 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 4/06/24 20:02, olcott wrote:
Those words are dead obviously correct about how a partial simulation
does correctly determine the halt status of this function:
>
void Infinite_Recursion2(u32 N)
{
H(Infinite_Recursion2, (ptr)N);
}
>
Does Infinite_Recursion2 halt?
>
When halting is defined in the software engineering terms of
terminating normally then Infinite_Recursion2 does not even
halt when it runs out of stack space and crashes.
>
H always halts, and never runs out of stack space, because it is a decider. How does Infinite_Recursion2 run out of stack space, if H doesn't run out of stack space?
>
When we are on actual physical machines as my fully operational
HH/DD are running put of stack space is possible.
Then increase the stack space until it doesn't run out. Turing machines can't run out of stack space unless you programmed them wrong.
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