Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems

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Sujet : Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 09. Jun 2024, 20:57:37
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On 6/9/24 2:48 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/9/2024 1:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/9/24 2:10 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/9/2024 1:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/9/24 11:36 AM, olcott wrote:
*This has direct application to undecidable decision problems*
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When we ask the question: What is a truthmaker? The generic answer is
whatever makes an expression of language true <is> its truthmaker. This
entails that if there is nothing in the universe that makes expression X
true then X lacks a truthmaker and is untrue.
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I guess you don't understand Formal Logic then.
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If Formal logic, the logic system starts with an explicit listing of statements and definitions that are considered "True" and logical operations that are considered VALID.
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X may be untrue because X is false. In that case ~X has a truthmaker.
Now we have the means to unequivocally define truth-bearer. X is a
truth-bearer iff (if and only if) X or ~X has a truthmaker.
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I have been working in this same area as a non-academician for a few
years. I have only focused on expressions of language that are {true on
the basis of their meaning}.
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Which seems to mean you have focused on general Philosophy, and NOT formal logic, which has a much broader definition of "truth", and thus room to argue it.
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When I specify the ultimate foundation of all truth then this
does apply to truth in logic, truth in math and truth in science.
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Except that such a foundation only applies to logics built on that foundation.
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 Clearly you do not comprehend the term:
The actual {ultimate foundation of all truth}.
And who says you are the power to define such a thing?

 Nonsense systems can be created where
2 + 3 = "I fell down and hurt my knee."
Sure.

 For the actual correct notion of an expression
of language with the property of {True} something
making it true is required or it is untrue.
Nope. Axioms are {true} just by themselves. Nothing makes them {true} except that they are defined to be true.
Truth-makers do not need Truth-Makers.

 We can stipulate a term-of-the-art where "True(x)"
means a bucket of rusted bolts sitting in our front
yard. That has no effect what-so-ever on actual {True}.
 
Unless that IS what a given formal logic system defines.
Unlikely, as not very useful, but possible.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Jun 24 * Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems63olcott
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems55olcott
9 Jun 24 i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems54Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems53olcott
9 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems52Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems51olcott
9 Jun 24 i    +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems40Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 i    i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems39olcott
9 Jun 24 i    i +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems37Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems36olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems34Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i i`* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems33olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i i `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems32Richard Damon
10 Jun 24 i    i i i  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems31olcott
11 Jun 24 i    i i i   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems30Richard Damon
11 Jun 24 i    i i i    `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems29olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems28Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems27olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems26Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems25olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems24Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i          `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems23olcott
12 Jun 24 i    i i i           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems22Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i    i i i            `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems21olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i             `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems20Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i              `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems19olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i               `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems18Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems17olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                 `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems16Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems15olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems14Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                    `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems13olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems12Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems11olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems10Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems9olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems8Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                          `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems7olcott
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems6Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i    i i i                            `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems5olcott
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                             `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems4Richard Damon
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                              `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems3olcott
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                               `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems2Richard Damon
14 Jun 24 i    i i i                                `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i i `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1olcott
10 Jun 24 i    i `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1Richard Damon
11 Jun 24 i    `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works10olcott
12 Jun 24 i     `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works9Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i      `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works8olcott
12 Jun 24 i       `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works7Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i        `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works6olcott
12 Jun 24 i         `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works5Richard Damon
12 Jun 24 i          `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works4olcott
13 Jun 24 i           `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works3Richard Damon
13 Jun 24 i            `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works2olcott
13 Jun 24 i             `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems --- the way truth really works1Richard Damon
9 Jun 24 +* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems2joes
9 Jun 24 i`- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1olcott
9 Jun 24 `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems5Richard Damon
9 Jun 24  `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems4olcott
9 Jun 24   `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems3Richard Damon
9 Jun 24    `* Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems2olcott
9 Jun 24     `- Re: Truthmaker Maximalism and undecidable decision problems1Richard Damon

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