Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?

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Sujet : Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 02. Jul 2024, 03:51:19
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On 7/1/24 9:25 PM, olcott wrote:
typedef void (*ptr)();
int HHH(ptr P);
 void Infinite_Loop()
{
   HERE: goto HERE;
}
 void Infinite_Recursion()
{
   Infinite_Recursion();
}
 void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
}
 int main()
{
   HHH(Infinite_Loop);
   HHH(Infinite_Recursion);
   HHH(DDD);
}
 Every C programmer that knows what an x86 emulator is knows
that when HHH emulates the machine language of Infinite_Loop,
Infinite_Recursion, and DDD that it must abort these emulations
so that itself can terminate normally.
Right.

 When this is construed as non-halting criteria then simulating
termination analyzer HHH is correct to reject these inputs as
non-halting by returning 0 to its caller.
But only when you can actually PROVE that the full emulation of the program would be non-halting.

 Simulating termination analyzers must report on the behavior
that their finite string input specifies thus HHH must report
that DDD correctly emulated by HHH remains stuck in recursive
simulation.
But if DDD WAS stuck in infinte recursion, so must be HHH, so it isn't a decider.
HHH can't have different behavior when emulated by HHH then when it is actually run.
The problem is that "Emulated by the Decider" is NOT a valid criteria for the behavior of the input, since it isn't a function of just the input.
The "Behavior of the input" will be the behavior of the program the input represents when it is run. The fact that the decider can't figure it out, isn't a problem, it just shows that this question on behavior isn't computable, which is perfectly fine.

 Everyone else seems to be flat out dishonest or totally ignorant.
At least one of my reviewers does not seem to understand that
infinite recursion does not halt.
 
Nope, just one person, YOU. Your claims are FULL OF LIES and inconsistant definitions, and you re just to ignorant and stupid to understand that.
You don't understand the fundamental definitions of the field, because it seems, you intentionaally refuse to study it. That doesn't make your ERRORS innocent mistakes, but just a calculate fabrication.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Jul 24 * Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?70olcott
2 Jul 24 +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?9Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?8olcott
2 Jul 24 i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?7Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?6olcott
2 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?5Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?4olcott
2 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?3Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?2olcott
3 Jul 24 i       `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?1Richard Damon
2 Jul 24 `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?60Fred. Zwarts
2 Jul 24  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?59olcott
2 Jul 24   `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?58Fred. Zwarts
2 Jul 24    `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?57olcott
2 Jul 24     `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?56Fred. Zwarts
2 Jul 24      `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?55olcott
3 Jul 24       +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?25Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?24olcott
3 Jul 24       i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?23Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?22olcott
3 Jul 24       i   `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?21Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i    `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?20olcott
3 Jul 24       i     `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?19Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i      `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant18olcott
3 Jul 24       i       `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant17Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i        `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant16olcott
3 Jul 24       i         +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant5Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i         i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant4olcott
3 Jul 24       i         i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant3Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i         i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant2olcott
4 Jul 24       i         i   `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant1Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       i         `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant10Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24       i          `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant9olcott
3 Jul 24       i           +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant7Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24       i           i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant6olcott
3 Jul 24       i           i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant5Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24       i           i  +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant2olcott
3 Jul 24       i           i  i`- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant1Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24       i           i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant2olcott
3 Jul 24       i           i   `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant1Fred. Zwarts
4 Jul 24       i           `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant1Richard Damon
3 Jul 24       `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?29joes
3 Jul 24        `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?28olcott
3 Jul 24         +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?9Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24         i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?8olcott
3 Jul 24         i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?7Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24         i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?6olcott
3 Jul 24         i   +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?3Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24         i   i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?2olcott
3 Jul 24         i   i `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?1Fred. Zwarts
4 Jul 24         i   `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?2joes
4 Jul 24         i    `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?1olcott
3 Jul 24         `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?18joes
3 Jul 24          `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?17olcott
4 Jul 24           +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Yes to both for Peter Olcott14Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           i`* Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe?13olcott
4 Jul 24           i `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe?12Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           i  `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar11olcott
4 Jul 24           i   `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar10Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           i    `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ???9olcott
4 Jul 24           i     `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? For Olcott: YES to both.8Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           i      `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...7olcott
4 Jul 24           i       `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...6Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           i        `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...5olcott
4 Jul 24           i         +* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...3Fred. Zwarts
4 Jul 24           i         i`* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...2olcott
4 Jul 24           i         i `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...1Fred. Zwarts
4 Jul 24           i         `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...1Richard Damon
4 Jul 24           `* Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?2joes
4 Jul 24            `- Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?1olcott

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