Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan

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Sujet : Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan
De : F.Zwarts (at) *nospam* HetNet.nl (Fred. Zwarts)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 03. Jul 2024, 20:40:32
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Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:20 schreef olcott:
_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
 DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite
set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach
its own ret instruction and halt. That HHH aborts its
emulation at some point or never aborts its emulation
cannot possibly change this.
 
Ad hominem attacks always try to hide a lack of argumentation.
It has been proved that HHH cannot possibly correctly simulate itself.
So, the above code shows that the incorrect simulation of DDD by HHH is unable to reach the 'ret' instruction, because it either never aborts, or aborts one cycle too soon, when the simulated HHH is only one cycle from its own abort and return and then the return of DDD would follow.
Olcott could not find an error in this reasoning, but just repeats his baseless claims. So, who is hiding the truth?

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3 Jul 24 * Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan112olcott
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3 Jul 24 i`* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan99olcott
3 Jul 24 i `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan98Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan97olcott
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3 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan95olcott
3 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan94Fred. Zwarts
3 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan93olcott
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4 Jul 24 i            `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan86olcott
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5 Jul 24 i               +- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
5 Jul 24 i               `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement82Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 24 i                `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement81olcott
5 Jul 24 i                 +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement79Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 24 i                 i`* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement78olcott
5 Jul 24 i                 i `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement77Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 24 i                 i  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement76olcott
5 Jul 24 i                 i   `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement75Fred. Zwarts
5 Jul 24 i                 i    `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement74olcott
5 Jul 24 i                 i     +- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i     `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement72Fred. Zwarts
6 Jul 24 i                 i      `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement71olcott
6 Jul 24 i                 i       +- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott who doesn't under stand Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i       `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement69Fred. Zwarts
6 Jul 24 i                 i        +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement3olcott
6 Jul 24 i                 i        i+- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i        i`- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Fred. Zwarts
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6 Jul 24 i                 i         +- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i         `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement63Fred. Zwarts
6 Jul 24 i                 i          `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement62olcott
6 Jul 24 i                 i           +- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott1Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i           `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement60Fred. Zwarts
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6 Jul 24 i                 i             +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement35Richard Damon
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6 Jul 24 i                 i             i `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar33Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i             i  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?32olcott
6 Jul 24 i                 i             i   `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?31Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i             i    `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?30olcott
6 Jul 24 i                 i             i     `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?29Richard Damon
6 Jul 24 i                 i             i      `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?28olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i       `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?27Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i        `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?26olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i         `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?25Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i          `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?24olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i           `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?23Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i            `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?22olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i             `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?21Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i              `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?20olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i               `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?19Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?18olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                 `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?17Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?8olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i`* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar?7Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar!6olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar!5Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i   `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!!4olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i    `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!!3Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i     `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!!2olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  i      `- Re: Liar detector: Olcott is a Liar !!!1Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar !!!8olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                   `* Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott is a Liar !!!7Richard Damon
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7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                      `* Re: Richard is a Liar4olcott
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7 Jul 24 i                 i             i                         `- Re: Olcott IS a Liar!1Richard Damon
7 Jul 24 i                 i             `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement22Fred. Zwarts
7 Jul 24 i                 i              `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement21olcott
7 Jul 24 i                 i               +- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott1Richard Damon
8 Jul 24 i                 i               `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement19Fred. Zwarts
8 Jul 24 i                 i                `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement18olcott
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement4olcott
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 i+* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement2joes
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 ii`- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1olcott
9 Jul 24 i                 i                 i`- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott lies1Richard Damon
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement12Fred. Zwarts
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 i`* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement11olcott
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 i `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement10Fred. Zwarts
8 Jul 24 i                 i                 i  `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement9olcott
9 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   +* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement5Fred. Zwarts
9 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   i`* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement4olcott
10 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   i `* Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement3Richard Damon
10 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   i  `* a complete emulation of this input could be done --- Liar2olcott
10 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   i   `- Re: a complete emulation of this input could be done --- Liar1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i                 i                 i   `* Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement3olcott
10 Jul 24 i                 i                 i    +- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
12 Jul 24 i                 i                 i    `- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1olcott
9 Jul 24 i                 i                 `- Re: Liar detector: Peter Olcott found lying.1Richard Damon
5 Jul 24 i                 `- Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Ben's agreement1Richard Damon
4 Jul 24 `* Re: Liar detector: Peter OLCOTT YES!11Richard Damon

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