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On 7/6/2024 1:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:Which just shows your utter lack or morals or scrupals, and the total falibility of your memory.On 7/6/24 1:59 PM, olcott wrote:I am unconvinced that I ever did this.On 7/6/2024 9:53 AM, Richard Damon wrote:>On 7/5/24 11:50 PM, olcott wrote:>On 7/5/2024 6:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote:>>>
Then ADMIT an error rather then say someone else is wrong because you didn't say what you meant.
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It takes many revisions to precisely state my intuitions.
Every one is less than perfect. They keep getting better.
But, you refuse to acknoledge that you previous statements were errors, but accuse people of lying because they took you at your words.
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It is/was incorrect for me to call people liars when
they disputed the exact meaning of my prior less than
accurate words and they only disputed this on the basis
of the less than accuracy.
Then why do you continue to do so?
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And, how can that happen?The mereAgain the key issue is that someone that is essentially
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That is not what is happening on the other set of threads.
>>>>It is a notion of God as an ordinary human that also was the>>True on the basis of its verbal meaning isn't a thing in formal system, so not a Tautology, unless you mean by "verbal meaning" the meaning assigned to the term in the system.Se that I have to update it again because I am fallible.
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Did you know that the Gnostic Demiurge concept of God is fallible?
And that Gnosticism is just a heresy that is inconsistent, and thus not true.
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sole creator. Ultimately only an omniscient being could make
the 100% reliable call on this.
But such a God could not do what he did.
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Again my less than accurate words.
A being that has no more knowledge than a human creates
the universe by first creating/discovering light from
what is otherwise silences and darkness.
But is that probable, or even possible.
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a fallible human does this.
So, where does the failible human come from that created the universe?That is one of your failings, you imgaine something that maybe jus tmight be possible, (even if it isn't) and assume it is.The only actual impossibilities are logical impossibilities.
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The strangest logically possible thing is that a real live
two dimensional Bugs Bunny knocks on your door.
No, you have fallen for the lie that real truth doesn't exist.I have long since fully understood that beliefs and>>
Complete darkness so very gradually becomes pure white
light that it takes a long long time for this being to
notice the change.
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Later on this being imagines a flat surface that is
perpendicular to their own frame-of-reference and
decides to push the top of this flat surface backwards
so that it forms a 45 degree angle. This is how the
third dimension to space could have been created.
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A very long time later this being decides that they
want to forget that they did this and they condition
themselves to get out of the habit of using their power.
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The essence of all of this is explained in the great book.
https://www.amazon.com/What-Are-You-Doing-Universe/dp/0878770658
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The original version of this book tells the reader that they
themselves are the one and only creator of the universe.
The library of congress classifies this book as possible truth
Philosophical Anthropology Miscellanea
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Later versions of this book have an identical body yet come with
the caveat this this is a possible truth not a declared fact.
And by promoting such ideas, you show that you do not believe in the actual all powerful God that did create the univesre, and thus whe it
disbelief are lies that we tell ourselves. They are
lies because they close the mind to additional information.
Right, but since you do not have a faith in the actual creator of the universe, you are unable to avail yourself of his grace to let you have the relationship you need with him, so will forever be outside of him.comes time for the judgement of your life, you will be found lacking in the faith needed to redeam you from your failings, and thus spend your eternity seperated from him, in the place, best described in human terms, as the eternal fires of Hell.Faith is not the same thing as the mere presumption that
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beliefs often are. Faith is the substance of things hoped for
not the presumption that we are correct thus others are wrong.
Nope.If you are not convinced, which is the more likely origin of the world, and which decision has the more impact on what you should do.I am testing the hypothesis that I was deceived by Satan.
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Every translation of the bible agrees that God himself would
be this deceiver.
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false,Read the context. Man because of our sin, can not directly see God at work.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Thessalonians%202:11
I have ALWAYS only wanted what-ever the truth turns out to beBut you ignore that truth when it shows itself to you.
even if everyone in the universe disagrees.
*THE TRUTH OF THIS SEEMS INFALLIBLY CORRECT*Nope, that is just your own deception. The human use of language just isn't that good and has flaws in it.
That every expression of language that is {true on the basis of
its meaning expressed using language} must have a connection by
truth preserving operations to its {meaning expressed using language}
is a tautology. The accurate model of the actual world is expressed
using formal language and formalized natural language.
*Meaning that all of math and logic that disagrees are WRONG*
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