Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters

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Sujet : Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 09. Jul 2024, 21:26:45
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On 7/9/2024 2:09 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/9/2024 1:50 PM, joes wrote:
Am Tue, 09 Jul 2024 11:44:53 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 7/9/2024 10:21 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 09.jul.2024 om 16:46 schreef olcott:
On 7/9/2024 9:38 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>
*When DDD is correctly emulated by any pure function*
*HHH x86 emulator that can possibly exist* which calls an emulated
HHH(DDD) to repeat this process until the emulated DDD is aborted.
And the fact *that* it aborts, makes the simulation incorrect (as
Sipser would agree with), because the X86 code does not specify an
abort at that point. Therefore, the only conclusion must be: No such
HHH exists.
HHH is fully operational in the x86utm operating system.
It does not fulfill the specification. Your HHH is not the true HHH.
It is bugged.
>
  From the POV of insufficient technical competence it may
falsely seem this way.
 
When DDD is correctly emulated by any pure function x86 emulator HHH
calls an emulated HHH(DDD) this call cannot possibly return. This
prevents the emulated DDD from ever reaching past its own machine
address of 0000216b and halting.
Are you saying that the called HHH(DDD) does not terminate?
>
 The direct execution of HHH(DDD) always returns.
 The actual machine language of DDD and HHH proves that every
call made to HHH(DDD) from DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot
possibly return. That you don't know the x86 language well
enough to understand this is less than no rebuttal at all.
 _DDD()
[00002163] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002164] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002166] 6863210000 push 00002163 ; push DDD
[0000216b] e853f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DDD)
[00002170] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002173] 5d         pop ebp
[00002174] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002174]
 When DDD is correctly emulated by any pure function x86
emulator HHH calls an emulated HHH(DDD) this call cannot
possibly return. This prevents the emulated DDD from ever
reaching past its own machine address of 0000216b and halting.
 
The x86 emulator is the result of decades of work of
others. The most major change that I made to its code
was so that it could output the disassembled functions
of a COFF object file.
I provided a preprocessor so that it could take COFF
object files as inputs. I wrapped this x86 emulator
in the x86utm operating system that I wrote.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Jul 24 * Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters41olcott
7 Jul 24 +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters3Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i`* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters2olcott
10 Jul 24 i `- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees32olcott
9 Jul 24 i`* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees31Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees30olcott
9 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees29Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees12olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i`* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees11Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees10olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i  `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees9Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i   `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees8olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i    `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees to something different.7Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i     `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings6olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i      `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings5Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i       `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings4olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i        `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings3Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i         `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings2olcott
10 Jul 24 i   i          `- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben proves that he agrees to my meanings1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees6olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i`* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees5Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees4olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i  `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees3Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   i   `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees2olcott
9 Jul 24 i   i    `- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)10olcott
9 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)9Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)8olcott
9 Jul 24 i      `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)7Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i       +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)2olcott
9 Jul 24 i       i`- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i       `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)4olcott
9 Jul 24 i        `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)3Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 i         `* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)2olcott
10 Jul 24 i          `- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters --- Ben agrees (typo corrected)1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24 +* Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters2olcott
9 Jul 24 i`- Re: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters1olcott
12 Jul 24 `* Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt3olcott
12 Jul 24  +- Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt1Fred. Zwarts
13 Jul 24  `- Re: DDD correctly but partially emulated by HHH cannot possibly be seen to halt by HHH, but do halt1Richard Damon

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