Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker

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Sujet : Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 24. Jul 2024, 22:57:14
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On 7/24/2024 3:34 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
But truth bearer has another meaning.
The more correct terminology is anyway
truth maker, you have to shift away the
 focus from the formula and think it is
a truth bearer, this is anyway wrong,
since you have two additional parameters
your "True" and your language "L".
 So all that we see here in expression such as:
 [~] True(L, [~] A)
 Is truth making, and not truth bearing.
In recent years truth making has received
some attention, there are interesting papers
concerning truth makers. And it has
 even a SEP article:
 Truthmakers
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truthmakers/
 
Because the received view has never gotten past Quine's
nonsense rebuttal of the analytic synthetic distinction
no other expert on truth-maker theory made much progress.
{true on the basis of meaning expressed in language}
conquers any of Quine's gibberish.
A truth maker is any sequence of truth preserving operations
that links an expression x of language L to its semantic meaning
in language L. The lack of such a connection in L to x or ~x
means that x is not a truth-bearer in L.

A world of truthmakers?
https://philipp.philosophie.ch/handouts/2005-5-5-truthmakers.pdf
 
This seems at least reasonably plausible yet deals with things besides
{true on the basis of meaning expressed in language}

olcott schrieb:
  > The key difference is that we no long use the misnomer
 > "undecidable" sentence and instead call it for what it
 > really is an expression that is not a truth bearer, or
 > proposition in L.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Jul 24 * Truth Bearer or Truth Maker20Mild Shock
24 Jul 24 +* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker17olcott
24 Jul 24 i`* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker16Mild Shock
24 Jul 24 i +- Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker1Mild Shock
25 Jul 24 i `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker14olcott
25 Jul 24 i  +- Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker1olcott
25 Jul 24 i  `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker12Richard Damon
25 Jul 24 i   `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker11olcott
25 Jul 24 i    +* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker3Richard Damon
25 Jul 24 i    i`* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker2olcott
26 Jul 24 i    i `- Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker1Richard Damon
25 Jul 24 i    `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker7Mild Shock
25 Jul 24 i     +- Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker1Mild Shock
25 Jul 24 i     `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker5olcott
25 Jul 24 i      `* What is your truth maker? (Ws: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker)4Mild Shock
25 Jul 24 i       +* Re: What is your truth maker? (Ws: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker)2Mild Shock
26 Jul 24 i       i`- Re: What is your truth maker? (Ws: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker)1olcott
26 Jul 24 i       `- Re: What is your truth maker? (Ws: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker)1olcott
25 Jul 24 `* Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker2Mild Shock
25 Jul 24  `- Re: Truth Bearer or Truth Maker1Mild Shock

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