Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases

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Sujet : Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
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Date : 02. Sep 2024, 18:11:27
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On 9/2/24 8:24 AM, olcott wrote:
On 9/2/2024 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-09-01 12:56:16 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/31/2024 10:04 PM, olcott wrote:
*I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases*
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knowledge is a justified true belief such that the
justification is sufficient reason to accept the
truth of the belief.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
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With a Justified true belief, in the Gettier cases
the observer does not know enough to know its true
yet it remains stipulated to be true.
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My original correction to this was a JTB such that the
justification necessitates the truth of the belief.
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With a [Sufficiently Justified belief], it is stipulated
that the observer does have a sufficient reason to accept
the truth of the belief.
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What could be a sufficient reason? Every justification of every
belief involves other belifs that could be false.
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 For the justification to be sufficient the consequence of
the belief must be semantically entailed by its justification.
How does that handle the case where described where the error is in the interpreation of the observatin.

 When the truth of a belief is a necessary consequence of its
justification then this justification is necessarily sufficient.
But what it the justification was wrong?

 "This article talks about planets in our solar system"
https://www.space.com/16080-solar-system-planets.html
Is verified by the article talking about planets in our solar system.
But, how do you know that it is a CORRECT description of the planets, or uses the correct definition of planets?

 Believing the the boiling point of water is about 212 degrees F
on the basis of looking it up in a textbook also seems to be
a sufficient reason.
 
Then you better live near sea level, or you will be wrong, it appear that the boiling point of water in Denver is about 202 F (95C).
Also, textbooks can be wrong.
After all, Textbooks say that the Halting Problem is unsolvable, so either you admit that you have wasted decades going after something that you are now trying to say must had sufficient justification, or you admit that your current idea is just wrong.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Sep 24 * I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases50olcott
1 Sep 24 +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
1 Sep 24 `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases48olcott
1 Sep 24  +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
2 Sep 24  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases46Mikko
2 Sep 24   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases45olcott
2 Sep 24    +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
3 Sep 24    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases43Mikko
3 Sep 24     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases42olcott
4 Sep 24      +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
6 Sep 24      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases40Mikko
6 Sep 24       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases39olcott
7 Sep 24        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases38Richard Damon
7 Sep 24         +* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases35Mikko
7 Sep 24         i+- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
7 Sep 24         i+* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases17olcott
7 Sep 24         ii`* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases16Richard Damon
9 Sep 24         ii `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases15olcott
9 Sep 24         ii  +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Python
10 Sep 24         ii  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases13Richard Damon
10 Sep 24         ii   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases12Mikko
10 Sep 24         ii    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases11olcott
11 Sep 24         ii     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases10Mikko
11 Sep 24         ii      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases9olcott
12 Sep 24         ii       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases8Mikko
13 Sep 24         ii        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases7olcott
13 Sep 24         ii         +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
13 Sep 24         ii         `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases5Mikko
14 Sep23:26         ii          `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases4olcott
15 Sep04:09         ii           +* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases2Richard Damon
15 Sep11:01         ii           i`- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
15 Sep10:59         ii           `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
9 Sep 24         i`* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases16olcott
10 Sep 24         i +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
10 Sep 24         i `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases14Mikko
10 Sep 24         i  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases13olcott
11 Sep 24         i   +* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases3Richard Damon
11 Sep 24         i   i`* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases2olcott
12 Sep 24         i   i `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
11 Sep 24         i   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases9Mikko
11 Sep 24         i    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases8olcott
12 Sep 24         i     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases7Mikko
13 Sep 24         i      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases6olcott
13 Sep 24         i       +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
13 Sep 24         i       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases4Mikko
14 Sep23:28         i        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases3olcott
15 Sep04:10         i         +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
15 Sep11:02         i         `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
7 Sep 24         `* Correcting the AI hallucination of LLM systems2olcott
7 Sep 24          `- Re: Correcting the AI hallucination of LLM systems1Richard Damon

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