Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases

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Sujet : Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 04. Sep 2024, 04:26:38
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On 9/3/24 8:49 AM, olcott wrote:
On 9/3/2024 5:44 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-09-02 12:24:38 +0000, olcott said:
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On 9/2/2024 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-09-01 12:56:16 +0000, olcott said:
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On 8/31/2024 10:04 PM, olcott wrote:
*I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases*
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knowledge is a justified true belief such that the
justification is sufficient reason to accept the
truth of the belief.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
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With a Justified true belief, in the Gettier cases
the observer does not know enough to know its true
yet it remains stipulated to be true.
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My original correction to this was a JTB such that the
justification necessitates the truth of the belief.
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With a [Sufficiently Justified belief], it is stipulated
that the observer does have a sufficient reason to accept
the truth of the belief.
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What could be a sufficient reason? Every justification of every
belief involves other belifs that could be false.
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For the justification to be sufficient the consequence of
the belief must be semantically entailed by its justification.
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If the belief is about something real then its justification
involves claims about something real. Nothing real is certain.
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 I don't think that is correct.
My left hand exists right now even if it is
a mere figment of my own imagination and five
minutes ago never existed.
How are you SURE about that. I figment of your imagination is NOT something that actually exists.
Your left hand could be gone, and you just have a mental block that prevents you from noticing it.

 
If the belief is not about something real then it is not clear
whether it is correct to call it "belief".
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 *An axiomatic chain of inference based on this*
By the theory of simple types I mean the doctrine which says
that the objects of thought (or, in another interpretation,
the symbolic expressions) are divided into types, namely:
individuals, properties of individuals, relations between
individuals, properties of such relations, etc.
 ...sentences of the form: " a has the property φ ", " b bears
the relation R to c ", etc. are meaningless, if a, b, c, R, φ
are not of types fitting together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_type_theory#G%C3%B6del_1944
 
Yes, ANALYTIC truth can be (possibly) confirmed with certainty.
OBSERVATIONS might be incorrect or incorrectly interpreted, and thus there can not be certainty.

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1 Sep 24 * I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases50olcott
1 Sep 24 +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
1 Sep 24 `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases48olcott
1 Sep 24  +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
2 Sep 24  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases46Mikko
2 Sep 24   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases45olcott
2 Sep 24    +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
3 Sep 24    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases43Mikko
3 Sep 24     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases42olcott
4 Sep 24      +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
6 Sep 24      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases40Mikko
6 Sep 24       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases39olcott
7 Sep 24        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases38Richard Damon
7 Sep 24         +* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases35Mikko
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7 Sep 24         i+* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases17olcott
7 Sep 24         ii`* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases16Richard Damon
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10 Sep 24         ii  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases13Richard Damon
10 Sep 24         ii   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases12Mikko
10 Sep 24         ii    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases11olcott
11 Sep 24         ii     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases10Mikko
11 Sep 24         ii      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases9olcott
12 Sep 24         ii       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases8Mikko
13 Sep 24         ii        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases7olcott
13 Sep 24         ii         +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
13 Sep 24         ii         `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases5Mikko
14 Sep23:26         ii          `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases4olcott
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15 Sep11:01         ii           i`- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
15 Sep10:59         ii           `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
9 Sep 24         i`* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases16olcott
10 Sep 24         i +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
10 Sep 24         i `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases14Mikko
10 Sep 24         i  `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases13olcott
11 Sep 24         i   +* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases3Richard Damon
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12 Sep 24         i   i `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
11 Sep 24         i   `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases9Mikko
11 Sep 24         i    `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases8olcott
12 Sep 24         i     `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases7Mikko
13 Sep 24         i      `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases6olcott
13 Sep 24         i       +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
13 Sep 24         i       `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases4Mikko
14 Sep23:28         i        `* Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases3olcott
15 Sep04:10         i         +- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Richard Damon
15 Sep11:02         i         `- Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases1Mikko
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