Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code

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Sujet : Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code
De : janburse (at) *nospam* fastmail.fm (Mild Shock)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 01. Dec 2024, 17:36:32
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Warning: Research gate points to some slides,
which are not exactly the 2007 book.
Also in terms of accelerate superhuman AI,
its probably already an old book.
I didn't check back with ChatGPT although
there is no gurantee that ChatGPT gives
you top notch information, but could be still
helpful nevertheless, more helpful than
https://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/~dale/lolli/
And related systems back then. But did anything
change since then. What don't you like in
the answer:
A -> B  :=   ! A -o B
In my opinion this gives some cues how a translation
could nevertheless work. Something along replacing
A -> B by A -> .. A -> B, i.e. doing the
repeat as a preprocessing. What makes you doubt that
this work. Or do you have some aesthetic critieria
that exclude such a solution?
Mild Shock schrieb:
Well then Pierce Law is not povable under
the usual Glivenko translation in affine logic.
 So what? Whats your point?
 I found only one book that discusses Glivenk
style translations for substructural logics:
 Chatpter 8: Glivenko Theorems
Residuated Lattices: an algebraic glimpse at substructural logics
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235626321
 But how do you prove rigorously that affine
logic rejects certain Glivenko translations.
You would need to have a (counter-)model finder and
 not a proof finder. The "algebraic viewpoint"
could help you in building a (counter-)model finder.
What also sometimes helps is to use modal
 translations together with (counter-)model finders,
that would then search for some tree models.
 Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
On 01/12/2024 16:50, Mild Shock wrote:
>
This inference rule is incorrect:
% (C,X->Y=>Z) --> [(C=>X),(C,Y=>Z)]
reduction(elim, imp, (C0=>Z), Gs, Ps) :-
     nth1(H, C0, (X->Y), C1),
     append(C1, [Y], C2),
     Gs = [C1=>X,C2=>Z],
     Ps = [H:X,H:Y].
>
The correct one would be, X->Y has to
be repeated in the left proof branch:
% (C,X->Y=>Z) --> [(C,X->Y=>X),(C,Y=>Z)]
>
You are incorrect: that the logic is *affine* indeed means that we cannot use hypotheses more than once.
>
This is a nice intro scheme, notice also that this is all quite orthogonal to the classical vs intuitionistic distinction:
>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substructural_type_system>
>
HTH.
>
-Julio
>
 

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1 Dec 24 * Still on negative translation for substructural logics53Julio Di Egidio
1 Dec 24 +* Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics19Mild Shock
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1 Dec 24 i  `* Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code13Mild Shock
1 Dec 24 i   +- Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code1Mild Shock
1 Dec 24 i   `* Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code11Julio Di Egidio
1 Dec 24 i    +- Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code1Ross Finlayson
2 Dec 24 i    +- Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code1Mild Shock
2 Dec 24 i    `* Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code8Mild Shock
2 Dec 24 i     `* Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code7Mild Shock
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3 Dec 24 i        i `- Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code1Ross Finlayson
3 Dec 24 i        `- Re: intuitionistic vs. classical implication in Prolog code1Julio Di Egidio
2 Dec 24 +* Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics25Mild Shock
2 Dec 24 i+* Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics2Mild Shock
2 Dec 24 ii`- Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics1Mild Shock
2 Dec 24 i+* Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics20Julio Di Egidio
2 Dec 24 ii+* Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics2Julio Di Egidio
3 Dec 24 iii`- Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics1Mild Shock
5 Dec 24 ii`* The solver does not terminate (Was: Still on negative translation for substructural logics)17Julio Di Egidio
6 Dec 24 ii +* Re: The solver does not terminate7Julio Di Egidio
6 Dec 24 ii i`* Re: The solver does not terminate6Mild Shock
6 Dec 24 ii i `* Re: The solver does not terminate5Mild Shock
6 Dec 24 ii i  `* Re: The solver does not terminate4Julio Di Egidio
6 Dec 24 ii i   `* Re: The solver does not terminate3Julio Di Egidio
6 Dec 24 ii i    `* Re: The solver does not terminate2Mild Shock
6 Dec 24 ii i     `- Re: The solver does not terminate1Mild Shock
7 Dec 24 ii `* Re: The solver does not terminate9Julio Di Egidio
7 Dec 24 ii  `* Re: The solver does not terminate8Mild Shock
7 Dec 24 ii   +* Re: The solver does not terminate2Mild Shock
7 Dec 24 ii   i`- Re: The solver does not terminate1Mild Shock
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9 Dec 24 i `- Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics1Mild Shock
3 Dec 24 +- Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics1Julio Di Egidio
3 Dec 24 +- Re: Still on negative translation for substructural logics1Julio Di Egidio
4 Dec 24 +* Counter Example by Troelstra & Schwichtenberg (Was: Still on negative translation for substructural logics)4Mild Shock
4 Dec 24 i`* Re: Counter Example by Troelstra & Schwichtenberg (Was: Still on negative translation for substructural logics)3Julio Di Egidio
6 Dec 24 i `* Affine Logic, what Properties does it have? (Was: Counter Example by Troelstra & Schwichtenberg)2Mild Shock
6 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Affine Logic, what Properties does it have? (Was: Counter Example by Troelstra & Schwichtenberg)1Mild Shock
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