Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 23. Dec 2024, 02:03:21
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On 12/22/24 10:04 AM, WM wrote:
On 22.12.2024 13:28, Richard Damon wrote:
On 12/21/24 4:40 PM, WM wrote:
 
The reason is that after every visible unit fraction there are more visible unit fractions created. That is potential infinity. You can't understand that matter.
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No, they are not "created" they have always been there, they just haven't been enumerated/discovered yet.
 Why haven't they?
Because you just haven't had time to discover it, because you are a finite entity.
A finite universe can only describe a finite number of finite number, but the mathematical set of the natural numbers goes beyond that.

The numbers didn't just show up, they were always there and we didn't do anything that prohibited it from stopping at any of them.
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They were dark.
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No, you just didn't see them because your logic closes its eyes and lies to you.
 Then show me a unit fraction that you see for the first time when going from 0 to 1 which has no smaller unit fractions that you hadn't discovered before.
 
But the question isn't "hadn't discovered befor" but which exists. An there isn't a "first" unit fraction on the line from that end, because the set is unbounded, so asking about where something that doesn't exist would be is just an invalid question.

Regards, WM
 

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