Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Ultimate Foundation of Truth

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Sujet : Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Ultimate Foundation of Truth
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Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 25. Feb 2025, 19:18:39
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Am Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:11:58 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 2/24/2025 6:27 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/23/25 11:39 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/23/2025 8:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/23/25 1:08 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/22/2025 9:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/22/25 1:42 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/22/2025 3:25 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-02-22 04:44:35 +0000, olcott said:
On 2/21/2025 7:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 2/21/25 6:19 PM, olcott wrote:
On 2/20/2025 2:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-02-18 03:59:08 +0000, olcott said:

We are answering the question:
What are the relationships between arbitrary finite strings such
that the semantic property of True(L, x)
(where L and x are finite strings) can always be correctly
determined for every finite string having a truth value that is
entirely verified by its relation to other finite strings.
>
And, if the logic system can support the properties of the Natural
Number system, and a definition of the predicate True, it can be
shown that you can create the equivalent of
>
Let P be defined as Not( True(L, P))
in that system, and thus P is a semantically valid,
>
Not at all. That is the same as saying you know that it is true that
all squares are always round.
Really, then where is the error in his derivation?
You clearly have no idea what "semantically sound" means.
The only correct rebuttal to this is you proving that you do know this
by providing the details of exactly what "semantically sound" means.
Sure I do.
A Systems is semantically sound if every statement that can be proven
is actually true by the systems semantics,
That is very good.
There may yet be true statements that are not provable.

in other words, the system doesn't allow the proving of a false
statement.
That is not too bad yet ignores that some expressions might not have any
truth value.
No such thing.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Jan 25 * Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception437olcott
31 Jan 25 +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception19Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception18olcott
31 Jan 25 i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception17Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception16olcott
31 Jan 25 i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception15Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception14olcott
1 Feb 25 i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception13Richard Damon
1 Feb 25 i      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception12olcott
1 Feb 25 i       `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception11Richard Damon
1 Feb 25 i        `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception10olcott
1 Feb 25 i         `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception9Richard Damon
3 Feb 25 i          +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception6olcott
4 Feb 25 i          i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception5Richard Damon
5 Feb 25 i          i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception4olcott
5 Feb 25 i          i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception3Richard Damon
5 Feb 25 i          i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception2olcott
6 Feb 25 i          i    `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
3 Feb 25 i          `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception [CORRECTION]2olcott
4 Feb 25 i           `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception [CORRECTION]1Richard Damon
31 Jan 25 `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception417Mikko
31 Jan 25  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception416olcott
31 Jan 25   +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
1 Feb 25   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception414Mikko
1 Feb 25    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception413olcott
1 Feb 25     +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
2 Feb 25     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception411Mikko
3 Feb 25      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception410olcott
3 Feb 25       +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception408Mikko
3 Feb 25       i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception407olcott
4 Feb 25       i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception406Mikko
4 Feb 25       i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception405olcott
5 Feb 25       i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception404Mikko
5 Feb 25       i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception403olcott
6 Feb 25       i     +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception1Richard Damon
6 Feb 25       i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception401Mikko
6 Feb 25       i      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski400olcott
6 Feb 25       i       +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Richard Damon
7 Feb 25       i       `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski398Mikko
7 Feb 25       i        `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski397olcott
8 Feb 25       i         `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski396Mikko
8 Feb 25       i          `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski395olcott
8 Feb 25       i           +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski24Ross Finlayson
8 Feb 25       i           i+- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski --- YES !!!1olcott
9 Feb 25       i           i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski22Julio Di Egidio
9 Feb 25       i           i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski21olcott
9 Feb 25       i           i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski20Richard Damon
9 Feb 25       i           i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski19olcott
10 Feb 25       i           i    +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski11Richard Damon
10 Feb 25       i           i    i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski10olcott
10 Feb 25       i           i    i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski9Richard Damon
10 Feb 25       i           i    i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski8olcott
10 Feb 25       i           i    i   `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski7Richard Damon
10 Feb 25       i           i    i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski6olcott
11 Feb 25       i           i    i     +- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Richard Damon
11 Feb 25       i           i    i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski4Mikko
11 Feb 25       i           i    i      +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski2olcott
12 Feb 25       i           i    i      i`- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Mikko
11 Feb 25       i           i    i      `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Ross Finlayson
11 Feb 25       i           i    `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski7Ross Finlayson
11 Feb 25       i           i     +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski3olcott
11 Feb 25       i           i     i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski2Ross Finlayson
12 Feb 25       i           i     i `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Ross Finlayson
11 Feb 25       i           i     `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski3Julio Di Egidio
11 Feb 25       i           i      `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski2Ross Finlayson
12 Feb 25       i           i       `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Julio Di Egidio
8 Feb 25       i           +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski7Richard Damon
9 Feb 25       i           i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski6olcott
9 Feb 25       i           i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski5Richard Damon
9 Feb 25       i           i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski4olcott
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9 Feb 25       i           `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski363Mikko
9 Feb 25       i            +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski359Richard Damon
10 Feb 25       i            i`* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski358Mikko
10 Feb 25       i            i `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski357olcott
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11 Feb 25       i            i  `* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski355Mikko
11 Feb 25       i            i   +* Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski353olcott
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13 Feb 25       i            i   ii `- Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski1Richard Damon
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