Re: The key undecidable instance that I know about

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Sujet : Re: The key undecidable instance that I know about
De : dbush.mobile (at) *nospam* gmail.com (dbush)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 09. Mar 2025, 18:26:52
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On 3/9/2025 1:15 PM, olcott wrote:
Is the Liar Paradox True or False?
 LP := ~True(LP)
 ?- LP = not(true(LP)).
LP = not(true(LP)).
 ?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).
false.
 Its infinitely recursive structure makes it neither true nor false.
 
Nice try making a new post to dishonestly dodge your false claim:
On 3/9/2025 12:34 PM, olcott wrote:
 > It turns out that all of the undecidable cases
 > that I know about have no correct yes/no answer.
When you know of this one:
Does algorithm X with input Y halt when run directly for all X and Y?
But no algorithm exists to compute it.
Your above claim is also a category error, as an undecidable problem has a valid yes or no answer in all cases as a prerequisite.

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