Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.

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Sujet : Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
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Date : 22. Mar 2025, 00:39:49
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Am Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:54:53 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 3/21/2025 6:48 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/20/25 11:49 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/20/2025 8:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/20/25 6:14 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/19/2025 8:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/19/25 5:50 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/18/2025 10:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

Part of the problem is that most of what we call "Human
Knowledge" isn't logically defined truth, but is just "Emperical
Knowledge", for which we
>
The set of human knowledge that can be expressed in language
provides the means to compute True(X).
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Of course not, as then True(x) just can't handle a statement whose
truth is currently unknown, which it MUST be able to handle
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It employs the same algorithm as Prolog:
Can X be proven on the basis of Facts?
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And thus you just admitted that your system doesn't even QUALIFY to
be the system that Tarski is talking about.
You don't seem to understand that fact, because apparently you can't
actually understand any logic system more coplicated than what Prolog
can handle.
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This concise specification is air-tight.
The set of all human general knowledge that can be expressed using
language has no undecidability or undefinability.
>
Nope. Proven otherwise, and you are just showing your stupidity in
maintaining that claim.
 
Then try and show ALL OF THE DETAILS OF how when one starts with basic
facts and only applies truth preserving operations that True(X) is not
always correct.
Look no further than Gödel's proof: the sentence "this sentence is not
true" is not true, and neither is its negation, where one of them
must be, since they are syntactically correct.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Mar 25 * Why Tarski is wrong54olcott
17 Mar 25 +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong40Richard Damon
17 Mar 25 i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong39olcott
18 Mar 25 i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
18 Mar 25 i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
18 Mar 25 i `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.36olcott
18 Mar 25 i  +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.6Mikko
19 Mar 25 i  i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.5olcott
19 Mar 25 i  i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
19 Mar 25 i  i `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.3Mikko
19 Mar 25 i  i  `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.2olcott
20 Mar 25 i  i   `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
19 Mar 25 i  `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.29Richard Damon
19 Mar 25 i   `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.28olcott
20 Mar 25 i    `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.27Richard Damon
20 Mar 25 i     `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.26olcott
21 Mar 25 i      `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.25Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i       `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.24olcott
21 Mar 25 i        +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.4Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i        i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.3olcott
22 Mar 25 i        i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i        i `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i        `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.19Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i         `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.18olcott
22 Mar 25 i          +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.2joes
22 Mar 25 i          i`- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1olcott
22 Mar 25 i          `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.15Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i           +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.8olcott
22 Mar 25 i           i+* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.3Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i           ii`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.2olcott
22 Mar 25 i           ii `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i           i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.4Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i           i `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.3olcott
22 Mar 25 i           i  +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i           i  `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Mikko
22 Mar 25 i           `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.6olcott
22 Mar 25 i            +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.4Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i            i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.3olcott
22 Mar 25 i            i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i            i `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Mikko
22 Mar 25 i            `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context.1Richard Damon
17 Mar 25 +* Re: Why Tarski is wrong4Richard Damon
17 Mar 25 i`* Re: Why Tarski is wrong3olcott
17 Mar 25 i +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
17 Mar 25 i `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong9Mikko
17 Mar 25  `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong8olcott
18 Mar 25   +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
18 Mar 25   `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong6Mikko
18 Mar 25    `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong5olcott
19 Mar 25     +- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon
19 Mar 25     `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong3Mikko
20 Mar 25      `* Re: Why Tarski is wrong2olcott
20 Mar 25       `- Re: Why Tarski is wrong1Richard Damon

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