Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge

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Sujet : Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 22. Mar 2025, 20:07:17
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On 3/22/2025 12:43 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/22/25 1:40 PM, olcott wrote:
On 3/22/2025 11:32 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-03-21 12:43:39 +0000, olcott said:
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On 3/21/2025 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-03-20 14:57:16 +0000, olcott said:
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On 3/20/2025 6:00 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/19/25 10:42 PM, olcott wrote:
It is stipulated that analytic knowledge is limited to the
set of knowledge that can be expressed using language or
derived by applying truth preserving operations to elements
of this set.
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Which just means that you have stipulated yourself out of all classical logic, since Truth is different than Knowledge. In a good logic system, Knowledge will be a subset of Truth, but you have defined that in your system, Truth is a subset of Knowledge, so you have it backwards.
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True(X) always returns TRUE for every element in the set
of general knowledge that can be expressed using language.
It never gets confused by paradoxes.
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Not useful unless it returns TRUE for no X that contradicts anything
that can be inferred from the set of general knowledge.
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I can't parse that.
 > (a) Not useful unless
 > (b) it returns TRUE for
 > (c) no X that contradicts anything
 > (d) that can be inferred from the set of general knowledge.
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Can you parse "It might be useful if it would return something else that
TRUE for some X, especially if that X contradicts something that can be
inferred from the set of general knowledge." ?
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True(X) implements a membership algorithm for elements of the
body of human general knowledge that can be expressed using language.
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 Then it is Known(x) not True(x).
 Sorry, you just admitted to your fraud.
It is pretty stupid to claim that
Knowledge "⊂" Truth is an example of fraud.
True(X) works perfectly within the body of knowledge
that can be expressed using language.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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20 Mar 25 * How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge333olcott
20 Mar 25 +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge92Richard Damon
20 Mar 25 i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge91olcott
21 Mar 25 i +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge3Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge2olcott
21 Mar 25 i i `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge1Richard Damon
21 Mar 25 i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge87Mikko
21 Mar 25 i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge86olcott
22 Mar 25 i   +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge68Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge67olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge66Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge65olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i   +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge63Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge62olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i   i +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge29joes
22 Mar 25 i   i   i i+* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge27olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i   i ii+* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge8joes
22 Mar 25 i   i   i iii`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge7olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i   i iii `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge6Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i iii  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---WHY DO THIS?5olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i iii   `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---WHY DO THIS?4Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i iii    `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---WHY DO THIS?3olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i iii     +- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---WHY DO THIS?1Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i iii     `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---WHY DO THIS?1Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i ii`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge18Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i ii `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC17olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i ii  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC16Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i ii   `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC15olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i ii    +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC3Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i ii    i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC2olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i ii    i `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC1Richard Damon
25 Mar 25 i   i   i ii    `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC11Mikko
25 Mar 25 i   i   i ii     `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC10olcott
26 Mar 25 i   i   i ii      +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC3Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i   i   i ii      i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC2olcott
26 Mar 25 i   i   i ii      i `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i   i   i ii      `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC6Mikko
26 Mar 25 i   i   i ii       `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC5olcott
27 Mar 25 i   i   i ii        +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC3Richard Damon
27 Mar 25 i   i   i ii        i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC2olcott
27 Mar 25 i   i   i ii        i `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC1Richard Damon
27 Mar 25 i   i   i ii        `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge ---ZFC1Mikko
22 Mar 25 i   i   i i`- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge1Mikko
22 Mar 25 i   i   i +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge11Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge10olcott
22 Mar 25 i   i   i i +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge5Richard Damon
22 Mar 25 i   i   i i i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge4olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i i i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge3Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i i i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge2olcott
24 Mar 25 i   i   i i i   `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge1joes
25 Mar 25 i   i   i i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge4Mikko
25 Mar 25 i   i   i i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge3olcott
26 Mar 25 i   i   i i   +- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge1Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i   i   i i   `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge1Mikko
22 Mar 25 i   i   i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge21Mikko
22 Mar 25 i   i   i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)20olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i   +* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)6Richard Damon
23 Mar 25 i   i   i   i`* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)5olcott
23 Mar 25 i   i   i   i +- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)1Richard Damon
24 Mar 25 i   i   i   i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)3joes
24 Mar 25 i   i   i   i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)2olcott
24 Mar 25 i   i   i   i   `- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)1Richard Damon
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26 Mar 25 i   i   i     i `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)6Richard Damon
26 Mar 25 i   i   i     i  `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)5olcott
26 Mar 25 i   i   i     i   +- Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)1Mikko
26 Mar 25 i   i   i     i   `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge (GKEUL)3Richard Damon
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25 Mar 25 i    `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge3olcott
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21 Mar 25    `* Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge234olcott
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