Re: Simple enough for every reader?

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Sujet : Re: Simple enough for every reader?
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.logic
Date : 31. May 2025, 14:47:51
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On 31.05.2025 12:11, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-05-30 14:46:55 +0000, WM said:
 

{1, 2, 3, ..., n, n+1} has infinitely many (ℵo) successors is a consequence of {1, 2, 3, ..., n} has infinitely many (ℵo) successors, and ℵo - 1 = ℵo.
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Still no proof.
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Proof that every definable natural number has more successors than predecessors.
 You have not shown that proof, either.
I have above. You cannot understand it. That is a different thing.

But because every natural number
has more successors than predessors it hardly is interesting, unless
you happen to have an interesting way to say 'more'.
Every definable natural number has finitely many predecessors but infinitely may successors. Since all successors can be reduced to the empty set by subtractig them collectively,
ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...} = { }
they could also be reduced to the empty set by subtracting them individually - if this was possible. But then the well-order would force the existence of a last one. Contradiction.
Regards, WM

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