Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof

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Sujet : Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 15. Jul 2025, 04:03:41
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On 7/14/2025 9:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/14/25 3:15 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/12/2025 6:03 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/11/25 1:12 AM, olcott wrote:
On 7/10/2025 11:42 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2025-07-10 22:29, olcott wrote:
On 7/10/2025 10:58 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2025-07-10 19:58, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/10/25 10:09 AM, olcott wrote:
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According to the POE:
(a) The Moon is made of green cheese and
(b) the Moon does not exist
proves that
(c) Donald Trump is the Christ.
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Rigth, but only because a side affect of (a) is that the moon must exist.
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Really, the problem here is that Olcott fails to distinguish between the truth of a conditional statement and the truth of the consequent of a conditional statement. They are not the same thing.
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((X & ~X) implies Y) is necessarily true.
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That is not the exact meaning of these words
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What is not the exact meaning of which words?
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*This Wikipedia quote*
On 7/10/2025 11:29 PM, olcott wrote:
 >    the principle of explosion is the law according to which
 >    *any statement can be proven from a contradiction*
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion
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Here is the exact meaning of:
*any statement can be proven from a contradiction*
∀x (⊥ ⊢ x).
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And what is wrong with the analysis given one that page:
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André G. Isaak's paraphrase of this:
"any statement can be proven from a contradiction"
to this:
((X & ~X) implies Y) is necessarily true.
Is incorrect.
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Here is the correct paraphrase: ∀x (⊥ ⊢ x).
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 And Yes that can be PROVEN
 
So you agree that André had this wrong when he used
implies(→) instead of proves(⊢).
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Jul 25 * Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof31olcott
10 Jul 25 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3joes
10 Jul 25 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
11 Jul 25 i `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul 25 +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof25Richard Damon
11 Jul 25 i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof24André G. Isaak
11 Jul 25 i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof23olcott
11 Jul 25 i  +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof21André G. Isaak
11 Jul 25 i  i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof20olcott
12 Jul 25 i  i +- André G. Isaak still has not noticed his mistake1olcott
13 Jul 25 i  i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof18Richard Damon
14 Jul 25 i  i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof17olcott
15 Jul03:21 i  i   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof16Richard Damon
15 Jul04:03 i  i    +* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7olcott
15 Jul12:44 i  i    i`* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6Richard Damon
15 Jul13:40 i  i    i `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5olcott
16 Jul00:35 i  i    i  +- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott
15 Jul23:39 i  i    i  `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
16 Jul02:47 i  i    i   `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
16 Jul12:26 i  i    i    `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
15 Jul04:23 i  i    `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof8olcott
15 Jul12:16 i  i     `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof7Richard Damon
15 Jul13:37 i  i      `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof6olcott
16 Jul00:05 i  i       `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof5Richard Damon
16 Jul02:48 i  i        `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof4olcott
16 Jul12:32 i  i         `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof3Richard Damon
16 Jul16:21 i  i          `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2olcott
17 Jul03:16 i  i           `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
11 Jul 25 i  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1Richard Damon
15 Jul14:08 `* Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof2Tristan Wibberley
15 Jul15:25  `- Re: Claude.ai provides reasoning why I may have defeated the conventional HP proof1olcott

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