Sujet : Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary)
De : james.g.burns (at) *nospam* att.net (Jim Burns)
Groupes : sci.mathDate : 19. Oct 2024, 19:12:03
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On 10/19/2024 7:10 AM, WM wrote:
On 19.10.2024 12:56, Jim Burns wrote:
A number immediately before an infinite ordinal
is an infinite ordinal.
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That is the traditional opinion.
You do not understand what "A number..." says
because
you think 'infinite' means
'even a little beyond usable numbers',
something which it does not mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE9oOHrRMJI⎛ You keep using that word.
⎝ I do not think it means what you think it means.
For finite ordinal k
each ordinal j in ⦅0,k⟧ is predecessored,
that is, j-1 exists
For infinite ordinal ξ, not that:
some ordinal β in ⦅0,ξ⟧ is un.predecessored,
that is, β-1 doesn't exist
If infinite ξ is predecessored
and some β in ⦅0,ξ⟧ is un.predecessored,
then
some ordinal in ⦅0,ξ⟧\{ξ} is un.predecessored.
But ⦅0,ξ⟧\{ξ} = ⦅0,ξ-1⟧
and
some ordinal in ⦅0,ξ-1⟧ being un.predecessored
means
ξ-1 is infinite.
It has lead to internal contradictions (vanishing Bob).
The contradictions are with
_what you think_ 'infinite' means.
(op. cit. Inigo Montoya)