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On 9/16/2024 10:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:Well what it is that it was arrived at that theOn 09/16/2024 11:24 AM, Jim Burns wrote:>On 9/16/2024 2:13 PM, Jim Burns wrote:On 9/15/2024 9:31 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:On 09/15/2024 03:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:>>What is the successor function on the reals?>
Give me that, and maybe we can find the
'next' number greater than Pi.
Ah, good sir, then I'd like you to consider
a representation of real numbers as
with an integer part and a non-integer part,
the integer part of the integers, and
the non-integer part a value in [0,1],
where the values in [0,1], are as of
this model of (a finite segment of a) continuous domain,
these iota-values, line-reals,
as so established as according to the properties of
extent, density, completeness, and measure,
fulfilling implementing the Intermediate Value Theorem,
thus for
if not being the complete-ordered-field the field-reals,
yet being these iota-values a continuous domain [0,1]
these line-reals.
As n → ∞, (ι=⅟n), ⟨0,ι,2⋅ι,...,n⋅ι⟩ → ℚ∩[0,1]
Here follows the meaning of
my.best.guess.at.what.you.mean.
⎛ I invite you to either
⎜ continue implicitly accepting my guess or
⎝ clarify what.you.mean.
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Define
f: ℕ → 𝒫(ℝ)
f(n) = ⟨0/n,1/n,2/n,...,n/n⟩
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Define
ran(f) = limⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n)
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lim.infⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n) ⊆ limⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n) ⊆ lim.supⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set-theoretic_limit
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lim.infⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n) =
⋃⁰ᑉⁿ ⋂ⁿᑉʲ f(j) =
⋃⁰ᑉⁿ {0,1} =
{0,1}
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lim.supⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n) =
⋂⁰ᑉⁿ ⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j) =
⋂⁰ᑉⁿ ℚ∩[0,1] =
ℚ∩[0,1]
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{0,1} ⊆ limⁿᐧᐧᐧ f(n) ⊆ ℚ∩[0,1]
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⋂ⁿᑉʲ f(j) = {0,1}
⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j) = ℚ∩[0,1]
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⎛ ⋂ⁿᑉʲ f(j) ⊆
⎜ ⟨0/j,1/j,...,j⋅/j⟩ ∩ ⟨0/j⁺¹,1/j⁺¹,...,j⁺¹⋅/j⁺¹⟩ =
⎜ {0,1}
⎜
⎝ ⋂ⁿᑉʲ f(j) ⊇ {0,1}
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⎛ ∀ᴺj>n: f(j) ⊆ ℚ∩[0,1]
⎜ ⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j) ⊆ ℚ∩[0,1]
⎜
⎜ ∀p/q ∈ ℚ∩[0,1]:
⎜ nq > n ∧
⎜ np/nq ∈ f(nq) ⊆ ⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j) ∧
⎜ np/nq = p/q ∈ ⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j)
⎝ ℚ∩[0,1] ⊆ ⋃ⁿᑉʲ f(j)
>It's shewn that [0,1] has no points not in ran(f).>
Has it been shown, though?
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For ran(f) = limⁿᐧᐧᐧ ⟨0/n,1/n,2/n,...,n/n⟩
{0,1} ⊆ ran(f) ⊆ ℚ∩[0,1] ∌ ⅟√2 ∈ [0,1]
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If ran(f) isn't that, then what is ran(f)?
>About 2014, ....>
Was that your last word on ran(f), in 2014?
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I had hoped you would answer the point I've made.
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