Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers

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Sujet : Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 18. Nov 2024, 23:12:07
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On 18.11.2024 22:53, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 11/18/2024, WM supposed :
On 18.11.2024 18:11, FromTheRafters wrote:
WM pretended :
On 17.11.2024 21:59, FromTheRafters wrote:
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It is sometimes better to think of cardinality as a number indicating a notion of 'set size' rather than a notion of 'number many'. For finite sets these two notions merge.
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In the infinite they differ:
ℵo is not the same as |ℕ| although |ℕ| is in the set of numbers described by ℵo.
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aleph_zero is the same object as the cardinality of N.
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Yes, but |ℕ| is the number of elements of ℕ.
 Or, more generally, it is the "SIZE" of the set. Size equals the number of elements in a *FINITE* set.
 You said aleph_zero minus aleph_zero was different to the cardinality of N
|ℕ| is the number of elements, not the cardinality!

aleph_zero *IS* the cardinality of N.
Of course, but it is also the cardinality of all other countable sets which have more or fewer elements.
Regards, WM

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