Re: Dark numbers (should be Kempner series)

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Sujet : Re: Dark numbers (should be Kempner series)
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 14. Apr 2025, 12:52:44
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On 14.04.2025 10:48, joes wrote:
Am Sun, 13 Apr 2025 17:42:07 +0200 schrieb WM:
On 13.04.2025 10:43, joes wrote:
Am Tue, 08 Apr 2025 20:09:48 +0200 schrieb WM:
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The harmonic series diverges. Kempner has shown in 1914 that when all
terms containing the digit 9 are removed, the serie converges. Here is
a simple derivation: https://www.hs-augsburg.de/~mueckenh/HI/ p. 15.
That means that the terms containing 9 diverge. Same is true when all
terms containing 8 are removed. That means all terms containing 8 and
9 simultaneously diverge.
We can continue and remove all terms containing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
8, 9, 0 in the denominator without changing this. That means that only
the terms containing all these digits together constitute the
diverging series.
There are no naturals that contain none of these digits.
But there are naturals which contain all of these digits and in addition
all definable sequences of digits.
There are also no naturals that contain all sequences of digits, as those
would have to be infinite.
No. All definable sequences of digits are finite. It wouldn't be possible to define infinitely many numbers individually.
 
But that's not the end! We can remove any number, like 2025, and the
remaining series will converge. For proof use base 2026. This extends
to every definable number. Therefore the diverging part of the
harmonic series is constituted only by terms containing a digit
sequence of all definable numbers.
I.e. infinite numbers, so not naturals.
Wrong. The denominators of the harmonic sequence are finite numbers but
the diverging part consists of numbers which are larger than all
definable numbers.
Sounds pretty infinite to me.
None is infinite. If you cannot comprehend the meaning of "definable", then first try "defined". There are only finitely many numbers defined. Since this remains so forever, there are also only finitely many numbers definable.
Regards, WM
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
8 Apr 25 * Dark numbers10WM
8 Apr 25 +* Re: Dark numbers3Alan Mackenzie
8 Apr 25 i+- Re: Dark numbers1WM
8 Apr 25 i`- Re: Dark numbers1Moebius
9 Apr 25 +- Re: Dark numbers1Ross Finlayson
13 Apr 25 `* Re: Dark numbers (should be Kempner series)5joes
13 Apr 25  `* Re: Dark numbers (should be Kempner series)4WM
14 Apr 25   `* Re: Dark numbers (should be Kempner series)3WM
14 Apr 25    `* Re: Kempner series (was: Dark numbers)2joes
14 Apr 25     `- Re: Kempner series1WM

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